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If they had done it properly (according to precedent) then Sheffield United would have ended up with more points than West Ham.
I didn't think a precedent had been set. I thought this was the first case of it's kind that the Premier League had adjudicated on, and therefore they set the benchmark regarding punishment by fining and not docking points.
As I said, the Premier League did **** it up, but the constant bleating from Sheff Utd (the 'it's Warnock not Sheff Utd' argument doesn't wash either - he was the public face of the club) means a lot of sympathy to their cause will have been lost.
What have I learned, Mr Mackay? Three things. One - bide your time. Two - keep your nose clean. And three - don't let the *******s grind you down
The reason you don't hear us moaning about that is because they didn't cheat against us. They played it fair and square. They got through group stages, knock out stages etc before facing us over 90 minutes and deservedly won the game.
If there was a sniff of suspicion that they fixed that game or cheated then I think we'd have a tiny bit of a moan. Imagine if Inzaghi was ineligible.
I take your point on board, but I'm not too sure.
If it's just a "sniff of suspicion" as you say, then it just seems that you're bitter and not very gracious in defeat. I mean it is somehting I could definitely see the likes of Chelsea and Everton doing, but I would have hoped we'd have too much dignity, integrity and magnanimity to start throwing around accusations to mask our own inadequacies.
Let's not forget we still hear stories of the 2nd leg of the '65 European cup semi being fixed. If you feel you've been cheated then you're not going to just ignore it. I ****ing hate Sheff Utd, but they were cheated.
West Ham at no point during last season played an ineligible player,both players were eligible to play in all competitions,this was agreed with the FA.and the EPL.
It was third party involvement in the contracts that was the problem,it meant they could be sold without West Ham's say so this broke EPL rules,but did'nt change the eligibility of the player.
Therefore there was no precedent.That's not to say the punishment was correct just that you can't use Swindon etc.because their case was completely different.
They ****ed it up big time and based it on something that silly as that they feel sorry for the West Ham fans if the would be relegated because their board had messed up.
What about the Sheffield U fans then, is they worth less than the West Ham fans? They are according to the verdict.
West Ham only stayed up because the PL didn't want the whole dirty affair to be investigated from top to bottom. Then many dirty things would pop up, like why Tevez and Mascherano was allowed to sign in the first place?
I don't believe for a second that the PL didn't knew about who owned Tevez and Mascherano. They were allowed to join West Ham because whey are two world class players IMO so the PL didn't give a **** who owns them and hoped that it would never be investigated.
Just look what happened this summer when Tevez signed for United. The PL said that most of the money from the deal must go to West Ham. £2m out of something like £25m will do that. I can't call that most of the money.
They were afraid what would happened if the case would go to court so they allowed it anyway.
Just believe and you never know what will happen.
According to Benitez it's important not simply to go out to win but to go out prepared to win, which means players have to put in the same level of work on a daily basis. Anything else is unacceptable.
Didn't Milan basically cheat their way into the CL? Fixed matches, got docked points and only through legal recourse severely mitigating their punishment where they allowed back in to the competition?
Don't hear us moaning about that.
I was raging for about a week after that. I still feel they shouldn't have been in it and I hate AC Milan.
I think it's a foul, and if the ref gives it. He got to give a penalty. I know it's outside the box, but you see them given that close to the area. So if the ref gives it he's got to give the penalty as it so close to the area. But I think it's a penalty. Robbie Savage 8/11/06
Are you watching Manchester United? Are you watching Chelsea? This is Liverpool F.C taking over the bloody world!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Sheffield United are to sue West Ham for the cost of their relegation from the Premier League.
The Blades were relegated after the Premier League opted not to dock West Ham points for fielding an ineligible player in Carlos Tevez.
Sheffield United have estimated the cost of their relegation at between £30m-£50m.
The Blades claim West Ham gained an unfair advantage by signing an illicit player in Tevez.
It's Ice Ham.
. Suppose you have a physicist and a sociologist standing at the side of a field, observing a set of events unfolding on the field. The physicist does [describes] it using the terminology of mass and velocity and frequency of radiation and the rest. And the sociologist does it by describing it as a rugby match.
I think you'd have to be a moron to slate Sheffield Utd for trying to do what's best for their club having seen the PL squirm over the last few months. Yes, they were ****, yes their manager was a ****, but that is completely irrelevant. I want a clean game without the whiff of favouritism, or even corruption. That whiff remains and if it takes a court case to get to the bottom of it, so be it.
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