Tevez and mascherano to west ham??

[Shaggy]

If Chelsea are supposedly behind the deal, then why didn't they just sign them themselves?

To see if they can handle the Premiership, as South Americans don't have a very good success rate in our league. Also, they don't really need them at the minute. Mascherano would probably be the long term replacement for Makelele, and Tevez could be their idea of the long term replacement for Chavchenko.

[BobSkinstad]

Also, money laundering by Berezovsky - need to make a large sum of cash "disappear", so make a cosy deal with Abramovich (yeah, yeah, I know, there is lots of bollocks about them being enemies, but don't believe a word of it), using some other club as a pawn, and hey presto.

[paulcooper4]

most valuable player....

im going to contradict you make out a controvercial claim...

Tevez is better than rooney

whats controversial about that? 2 little fat ugly *******s. Ones gotta be better than the other so teah, id say probably tevez is better than the granny shagger

[El Diego]

What the **** Tevez and Mascherano has joined West Ham are they on pot?

[Diego]

youve been on here all day havent you?

[Welhung]

Dodgy as **** I say.

Whats the bet that we never know how much they "went for" either.

Just wondering what happens when Chelsea have to play the Hammers?

Will Tevez and Mascherano both line up against them? Could they possibly be responsible for West Ham beating the Chavs? (if it is possible).

[FowlerLeftFoot]

chelsea should be banned for doing this dirty thing

[rodo]

just got this off a chelsea forum
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Posted - 01 Sep 2006 : 02:17:56
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At the end of the day, If it were a traditional and "legit" transfer and nothing suspicious was going on behind closed door's, there would not be such a big secret surrounding the whole thing. Why cant West Ham reveal how much they have forked out the piggybank for these two players? And how did they manage to pay the ridiculous sum of £69 Mil+ to buy out Tevez's contract release clause, let alone the price for the two players combined..It seems to me a bit of a coincidence that MSI and Kia *what ever his name is*, who attempted to take over West Ham last season, are behind these very deals. It will be interesting to see what unfold's in the future regarding thier future's. I however, firmly beleive that they, or at least Tevez, is coming to Chelsea.

[Shaggy]

According to today's Mirror (pinch of salt therefore required) West Ham paid £1m for each player.

[red g]

According to today's Mirror (pinch of salt therefore required) West Ham paid £1m for each player.

so only 66 million short of his buy out clause! what makes anyone think its dodgy

[rodo]

so only 66 million short of his buy out clause! what makes anyone think its dodgy

even tony gale(prick) was saying well even if it`s only for a season so even he must be able to see it for what it is

[red g]

even tony gale(prick) was saying well even if it`s only for a season so even he must be able to see it for what it is

sick of that prick and Kenny sansom ...on sky today mentioning Man u for the title and West ham,porstmouth being top teams.....no mention of Liverpool at all cnut

[PTP]

what a crazy scenerio this is. Part of me thinks fair play two West Ham, you got yourselves to quality players, but then I think they have sold there souls to the devil.

Look at the facts that we do know......
It's obvious that West Ham can't afford these two, it's also well know that MSI or whatever are dodgy and have a unknown very rich backer.
And there is no way either of these two players want to play for the Hammers.

IMO West Ham have basically whored themselves to get this two players, it improves their squad and raises the clubs' profile which you can't blame West Ham for doing. But at what cost to club??? something will backfire and in the long run West Ham will probably be burnt.

More worryingly, is this the future of football. World clas players/prospects being farmed out for 1/2 seasons for the benefit of the top clubs, to either prevent rivals signing them or to groom them for the own purpose. Chelsea already attempt to sigm players to stop rivals getting them. This is just another way of preventing your rivals to improve/challenge and basically monoplise football.

[Shaggy]

Tony Gale is so anti-Liverpool he makes Andy Gray seem like Thommo.

[byrnolegend]

A mate of mine just sent me the following stuff from the Mirror. Very fishy...

This article appeared in today's mirror which normally gets its football stories right. Something

very fishy indeed


DOUBLE BUY & MASCH!
DEADLINE DAY How East Enders pulled off the Premiership coup of decade, signing Tevez and Mascherano under noses of Chelsea, Arsenal & Man U John Cross

WEST HAM boss Alan Pardew yesterday pulled off an astonishing double transfer deal - including the capture of a player dubbed the "new Maradona."

Pardew stunned Chelsea <http://covers.mirror.co.uk/fixtures/premiership-fixture.aspx?page=/data/england/premierleague/fixtures/g1_summary_4.html> , Arsenal <http://covers.mirror.co.uk/fixtures/premiership-fixture.aspx?page=/data/england/premierleague/fixtures/g1_summary_2.html> , Manchester United <http://covers.mirror.co.uk/fixtures/premiership-fixture.aspx?page=/data/england/premierleague/fixtures/g1_summary_8.html> and Portsmouth <http://covers.mirror.co.uk/fixtures/premiership-fixture.aspx?page=/data/england/premierleague/fixtures/g1_summary_6.html> to sign Argentina World Cup duo Javier Mascherano and Carlos Tevez from Brazilian club Corinthians, subject to them getting work permits.

West Ham landed Mascherano and Tevez - both 22 - on amazing cut-price £1m deals through the company which owns their contracts, London-based Media Sports Investments

But ominously both have £20m buy-out clauses which will see them move next year, with Manchester United <http://covers.mirror.co.uk/fixtures/premiership-fixture.aspx?page=/data/england/premierleague/fixtures/g1_summary_8.html> having first option on Mascherano while Chelsea <http://covers.mirror.co.uk/fixtures/premiership-fixture.aspx?page=/data/england/premierleague/fixtures/g1_summary_4.html> are monitoring Tevez.

Mirror Sport can reveal that MSI already part-own two players at West Ham - Yossi Benayoun and John Paintsil - and they are happy for Pardew to have Tevez and Mascherano for a year and then sell them on if a club meets the buy-out price.

Their arrival brought back memories of Argentina stars Ricky Villa and Ossie Ardiles joining Tottenham <http://covers.mirror.co.uk/fixtures/premiership-fixture.aspx?page=/data/england/premierleague/fixtures/g1_summary_8.html> in 1978 after they won the World Cup. And Ardiles believes striker Tevez can be as good as Maradona.

Ardiles said: "He is the same type of player as Maradona - he is skilful, quick and very aggressive. He has all of the qualities that you need to succeed in England."

That shows the level of achievement on West Ham's part to land two of the most exciting prospects in South America.

Pardew's exhaustive attempt to get them was finally concluded at five in the morning yesterday at London's exclusive Cumberland Hotel.

He thrashed out a deal with agents Pini Zahavi and Jonathan Barnett plus Iranian businessman Kia Joorbachian who owns Media Sports Investments which has financial control of Corinthians.

Joorbachian tried and failed to take over West Ham last year but maintained close links with the club.

Arsenal <http://covers.mirror.co.uk/fixtures/premiership-fixture.aspx?page=/data/england/premierleague/fixtures/g1_summary_2.html> and United both enquired about Tevez and Mascherano but neither wanted to take them as a package - and both were more keen on Mascherano.

Portsmouth <http://covers.mirror.co.uk/fixtures/premiership-fixture.aspx?page=/data/england/premierleague/fixtures/g1_summary_6.html> were also close due to Zahavi's friendship with Harry Redknapp but it is Chelsea <http://covers.mirror.co.uk/fixtures/premiership-fixture.aspx?page=/data/england/premierleague/fixtures/g1_summary_4.html> who still loom large over the transfer.

Chelsea <http://covers.mirror.co.uk/fixtures/premiership-fixture.aspx?page=/data/england/premierleague/fixtures/g1_summary_4.html> owner Roman Abramovich is a close associate of Joorbachian and Zahavi brokered his takeover at Stamford Bridge. It is no coincidence either that the Cumberland Hotel was where Jose Mourinho agreed to become Chelsea <http://covers.mirror.co.uk/fixtures/premiership-fixture.aspx?page=/data/england/premierleague/fixtures/g1_summary_4.html> boss two years ago.

But United boss Sir Alex Ferguson has been assured by Zahavi that he will be given first option on Mascherano next summer - but will have to pay in excess of £18m.

Mourinho has flown to Brazil twice to watch Tevez but decided he is not yet ready for Chelsea <http://covers.mirror.co.uk/fixtures/premiership-fixture.aspx?page=/data/england/premierleague/fixtures/g1_summary_4.html> . This deal gives the Argentine stars 12 months to prove they can handle the Premiership.

Tevez and Mascherano both went AWOL from Corinthians to fly to London to set up the deals before they play for Argentina against Brazil at Arsenal <http://covers.mirror.co.uk/fixtures/premiership-fixture.aspx?page=/data/england/premierleague/fixtures/g1_summary_2.html> 's Emirates Stadium on Sunday.

Mascherano has been over THREE times to meet with Arsenal <http://covers.mirror.co.uk/fixtures/premiership-fixture.aspx?page=/data/england/premierleague/fixtures/g1_summary_2.html> and is regarded as a brilliant midfield anchorman in the mould of Patrick Vieira. He also shone at the World Cup, playing brilliantly in Argentina's 6-0 demolition of Serbia and Montenegro.

Tevez, 22, looks every bit the tough guy after a poverty-stricken upbringing in a Buenos Aires city block called Fuerte Apache.

He is one of nine children and his parents Raimundo and Adriana often could not afford to feed them all. His mother accidentally poured a kettle of boiling water over him as a baby, leaving him with facial scars and a big red wound on his body. Then he lost a front tooth after a nursery school accident, leaving him with a very distinctive look. Despite his millions he will never undergo plastic surgery as he says: "it's a reminder of what I came from and I will never change that."

But Tevez's rare talent has been overshadowed by Argentina's Lionel Messi and even Mascherano in recent times. Mascherano is strong, composed and has now established himself as an Argentina regular.

It is a stunning deal for West Ham, who described it as an "amazing coup ahead of some of Europe's biggest clubs."

West Ham legend Sir Trevor Brooking said: "It's potentially one of the most exciting deals the club has seen."