Emile back in England squad

[Shaggy]

Thing is though, what he's capable of is highly irrelevant if he barely ever produces it.

But he's producing it in the league at the moment, so it's very relevant.

[Craig_H]

But he's producing it in the league at the moment, so it's very relevant.

Mate, he's had a couple of decent games. Nowhere near good enough for england though.

Christ, is chasm of quality really that big, so as to drop from Rooney down to fecking Heskey?

[Pacman]

For this saturday, i'd go with Owen and Johnson up front.

Seriously?

Well we have different opinions on Johnson I think he's no better than Frannie Jeffers.

This isn't even a blue ****e thing I think he's one of the most over rated players in England.

[Shaggy]

Mate, he's had a couple of decent games. Nowhere near good enough for england though.

Christ, is chasm of quality really that big, so as to drop from Rooney down to fecking Heskey?

According to the Wigan fan about 10 feet from me now, he's had five absolutely outstanding games. I'll have to take his word for it as I've only seen highlights, but I know he's been highlighted already on MOTD this season by Hansen. Again.

Certainly good enough for England in the current climate and with the injuries and suspension.


England strikers pecking order:

Top group:

Owen
Rooney
Crouch

Next lot:

Defoe
Johnson
Bent

Then:

Nugent

Then?????

Pray tell!

[Shaggy]

Seriously?

Well we have different opinions on Johnson I think he's no better than Frannie Jeffers.

This isn't even a blue ****e thing I think he's one of the most over rated players in England.

Johnson never has and never will be anything like international class. Heskey is experienced at that level and has done the business before - witness his trojan performance away at Italy in Rome.

[JPK]

Well England have a dearth of strikers to choose from and have had for ages, but that's not Heskey's fault either.

He's not average at his best. Over the years he's been average, or worse, many more times than he's been good, but at his best he is virtually unplayable and, given that he's in excellent form at the moment, it's obvious why he's in the squad.

No striker is virtually unplayable.The top defenders would not give him much at his best.He does not have the savvy or brain to outplay a top class defender.Mclaren called him up on a great performance against Sunderland where McShane or Nosworthy were on him and Newcastle where he did'nt score.Bet you he wont score against last seasons top 4 this year

[Shaggy]

No striker is virtually unplayable.The top defenders would not give him much at his best.He does not have the savvy or brain to outplay a top class defender.Mclaren called him up on a great performance against Sunderland where McShane or Nosworthy were on him and Newcastle where he did'nt score.Bet you he wont score against last seasons top 4 this year

What a weird, confused post.

Didn't you see him against Man United at Anfield in the Houllier era? Bayern Munich in the Super Cup? Chelsea away in the 'Cheyrou' game. I could go on, but I can't be arsed.

Top, top defenders in opposition and Heskey was unplayable.

[Pacman]

Johnson never has and never will be anything like international class. Heskey is experienced at that level and has done the business before - witness his trojan performance away at Italy in Rome.

He had some games for us when he first joined that made Drogba look like pee wee herman.

[AFII]

According to the Wigan fan about 10 feet from me now, he's had five absolutely outstanding games. I'll have to take his word for it as I've only seen highlights, but I know he's been highlighted already on MOTD this season by Hansen. Again.

Certainly good enough for England in the current climate and with the injuries and suspension.


England strikers pecking order:

Top group:

Owen
Rooney
Crouch

Next lot:

Defoe
Johnson
Bent

Then:

Nugent haha:

Then?????

Pray tell!

The problem for England is that they don't have a Sheringham type of player anymore. A very clever player that will make the attack tick. Now it's more specialised type of players that is good at a few things but isn't as complete as Sheringham or Shearer for example.

[JPK]

What a weird, confused post.

Didn't you see him against Man United at Anfield in the Houllier era? Bayern Munich in the Super Cup? Chelsea away in the 'Cheyrou' game. I could go on, but I can't be arsed.

Top, top defenders in opposition and Heskey was unplayable.

Every player has good days.Davies from Bolton is an awkward player too and can be a handfull at times but he is average also.
Heskey is a donkey.Stan Collymore had potential but was a waster too.
The cream always rises to the top.Nothing confusing about that

[andyinswinton]

it's obvious why he's in the squad.

He would have been in the original squad if it was obvious.

I'm not knocking Heskey and to be honest, we have done Heskey to death during his time with us but McClaren picking him isn't right. If we can't beat Israel without Heskey (bearing in mind that Crouch will be back for the second game) then there is something seriously wrong.

[Sus]

The problem for England is that they don't have a Sheringham type of player anymore. A very clever player that will make the attack tick. Now it's more specialised type of players that is good at a few things but isn't as complete as Sheringham or Shearer for example.

Rooney? Much as I despise the little tramp, he's a very good link up player.....

[Pacman]

Every player has good days.Davies from Bolton is an awkward player too and can be a handfull at times but he is average also.
Heskey is a donkey.Stan Collymore had potential but was a waster too.
The cream always rises to the top.Nothing confusing about that

Ok so who would you pick?

[Shaggy]

Every player has good days.Davies from Bolton is an awkward player too and can be a handfull at times but he is average also.
Heskey is a donkey.Stan Collymore had potential but was a waster too.
The cream always rises to the top.Nothing confusing about that

Again...

The top defenders would not give him much at his best.He does not have the savvy or brain to outplay a top class defender

Er, yes he does and I gave you examples of times he has outplayed/destroyed top defenders - examples you appear to have just ignored and responded with the rather evasive "every player has good days".

Bizarre.

You seem to have a blind and irrational hatred of any vaguely unconventional/big/tall strikers. You seem to want every striker to be silky, Romario-esque geniuses.

To quote an irritating advert, it doesn't work like that.

[Shaggy]

He would have been in the original squad if it was obvious.

I very obviously meant it's "obvious" why he's been called in the squad given the current circumstances.