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    #16
    In some respects he's been a bit of a sacrificial lamb. Whoever took over from the fat one was always going to struggle. Fat Sam had built that team over about a decade. Sammy was cheapish to employ, so he'll probably be cheap to sack.
    Sadly I think it's inevitable.
    Originally posted by Gordon Brown
    (1995)
    "A weak currency is the sign of a weak economy,which is the sign of a weak government"

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      #17
      Originally posted by dww View Post
      I really rate Alladyce
      The mans an idiot. Spent all summer supposedly preparing newcastle and couldnt get together a decent midfield. My god they have a **** midfield. Takes his team to Derby and leaves Obafami Martins on the bench, chooses Ameobi instead.

      Then brings on Martins for Owen when 1-0 down in a move of clear tactical genius. ****in idiot, his team couldnt even score against Derby ffs

      Only 1 man to blame, Allardyce. Never ever thought much of him.

      Derby 1-0 Newcastle

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        #18
        Originally posted by -V- View Post
        The mans an idiot. Spent all summer supposedly preparing newcastle and couldnt get together a decent midfield. My god they have a **** midfield. Takes his team to Derby and leaves Obafami Martins on the bench, chooses Ameobi instead.

        Then brings on Martins for Owen when 1-0 down in a move of clear tactical genius. ****in idiot, his team couldnt even score against Derby ffs

        Only 1 man to blame, Allardyce. Never ever thought much of him.

        Derby 1-0 Newcastle
        Owen was injured to be fair. I dont like Fat Sam though, or Newcastle for that matter. How they can claim to be a big club astounds me when they've not won anything for over half a century. They seem to think that because they get 50,000 turning up that qualifies them as massive which is obviously bollocks because any one-club, big city would be the same.

        Been talking about Bolton to my mate at work who supports them. He says things are ominous for Sammy. They've got a UEFA Cup game, Derby and Spurs coming up so he reckons if they dont get anything out of that lot he'll be off.

        When you get players gesturing to the bench going 'what am i supposed to be doing?' its not a good sign. In fairness, Sammy has tried to do things his own way by playing decent football but the players who are still there are used to the hoof system and he's contributed to his own downfall by buying players who dont know their arses from their elbows.

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          #19
          Originally posted by MattD View Post
          Owen was injured to be fair. I dont like Fat Sam though, or Newcastle for that matter. How they can claim to be a big club astounds me when they've not won anything for over half a century. They seem to think that because they get 50,000 turning up that qualifies them as massive which is obviously bollocks because any one-club, big city would be the same.
          It really depends on what you mean by the size of a club though doesn't it? They do have a big and passionate fanbase and that to some extent does make them a big club and they certainly pay fat wages. Obviously most fans of top 4 clubs judge clubs size by their historical success in winning things - in which case Newcastle are far from a big club.

          Originally posted by MattD View Post
          Been talking about Bolton to my mate at work who supports them. He says things are ominous for Sammy. They've got a UEFA Cup game, Derby and Spurs coming up so he reckons if they dont get anything out of that lot he'll be off.
          I think you have to believe that you can get something from those games (at least the first two) if you want to manage in the PL to be honest. If you get a bit of momentum in those then you would fancy a crack at Spurs - so it is a pretty good set of fixtures to have at this point if you ask me.
          "The man who never alters his opinion is like standing water, and breeds reptiles of the mind."
          -- William Blake

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            #20
            I was in the Paddock against Bolton at home last season, and some **** was shouting 'Sammy ya ****in seal, **** off' etc

            Firstly, why seal?

            and secondly, why would this prick have a problem with Sammy?

            I was ashamed of this bloke quite frankly. I'm only 21 but I know from my dad that sammy was like a clockwork mouse, always gave his all...i hope he turns it around.
            Sack swinging like Dub-D40 on a door hinge

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              #21
              I think Sammy has tried to change too much too soon there.
              Bearing in mind that he kept all of the best players there, i would have thought the change to a more fluid passing style would have to be gradual rather than immediate in order to make sure Bolton remained a ****ing hard team to beat while they changed their style.

              I feel for him but sadly i think the writings on the wall for Sammy.
              If you've lost your faith in love and music the end won't be long

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                #22
                Originally posted by wiwma View Post
                I was in the Paddock against Bolton at home last season, and some **** was shouting 'Sammy ya ****in seal, **** off' etc

                Firstly, why seal?

                and secondly, why would this prick have a problem with Sammy?

                I was ashamed of this bloke quite frankly. I'm only 21 but I know from my dad that sammy was like a clockwork mouse, always gave his all...i hope he turns it around.
                To be fair, he does resemble a seal.

                Last edited by Red Chilli; 18-09-07, 04:11 PM.
                Originally posted by Gordon Brown
                (1995)
                "A weak currency is the sign of a weak economy,which is the sign of a weak government"

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                  #23
                  Originally posted by Red Chilli View Post
                  To be fair, he does resemble a seal.


                  And there's me thinking they call him a seal cos he claps a lot.
                  Thanks very much for being ‘This Mornings’ Farmer’

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                    #24
                    sammy was always called pig face
                    "People from Liverpool have got something about them and, if they’re not happy about something, they let people know.”
                    Jamie Carragher 15/1/2008

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                      #25
                      Sammy was called a seal because when he was warming our players up before the game he'd just stand in the middle of a circle of players, hunched over, clapping like a seal.

                      now you know.
                      Liverpool born and bred.

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                        #26
                        Sammy Lee has bought some very average players this summer and hasn't really been helped with some of his more established players like Kevin Nolan.

                        He is in some trouble though and I don't think he will be in a job at Christmas.
                        Twin boys - now arriving late August 2008.

                        Its gonna be Fernando and Gerrard if I get my way!

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                          #27
                          Originally posted by Howard_lfc View Post
                          Sammy was called a seal because when he was warming our players up before the game he'd just stand in the middle of a circle of players, hunched over, clapping like a seal.

                          now you know.
                          thanks
                          Sack swinging like Dub-D40 on a door hinge

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                            #28
                            Originally posted by dww View Post
                            It really depends on what you mean by the size of a club though doesn't it? They do have a big and passionate fanbase and that to some extent does make them a big club and they certainly pay fat wages. Obviously most fans of top 4 clubs judge clubs size by their historical success in winning things - in which case Newcastle are far from a big club.



                            I think you have to believe that you can get something from those games (at least the first two) if you want to manage in the PL to be honest. If you get a bit of momentum in those then you would fancy a crack at Spurs - so it is a pretty good set of fixtures to have at this point if you ask me.
                            Cant disagree with any of that

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                              #29
                              Hope so, he's part of a bet I have going!
                              RAFA! RAFAEL! RAFA! RAFAEL! RAFA! RAFAEL! RAFAEL BENITEZ!

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