Is Old Trafford too big

[dom9]

I heard this morning that Fergie was whingeing about the lack of passion from the fans last night. For god's sake it was a Champions league game against Celtic. Anfield would be be rocking in similar circumstances.

Anyway, it got me thinking. OT now holds 73,000 odd. Are they filling it with too many part timers like me.

I get to go to Anfield about once a year, but if people like me were half filling the stadium every week, there would be quite a lot of shouting, but not much singing, because I'm not part of the regular crowd. I'm more in awe of the kop than anything else.

Call me a LFC tourist if you like, but OT must be full of the manc equivalent nowadays.

From what I here, the Emirates stadium is even more dead than Highbury was (that's an acheivement). Again, I reckon it's down to people attending that have not been regulars before, or at least for a very long time.

Makes me think that the 60,000 capacity for the new Anfield is about right.

[Shaggy]

I’d definitely agree with that. I even worry that 60,000 is too many. I always felt 45,000 was kinda spot on – maybe I’m just biased.

It kicked off last night as well. Just been talking to an OT season ticket holder who was saying he's not seen trouble like that for years. Said it was going off outside Bishop's Blaize and Lou Macari's chippy, all over the forecourt outside the megastore, and INSIDE the ground.

Celtic somehow always seem to take over whatever ground they're visiting. I remember when we lost to Celtic at Anfield in the UEFA Cup a few years ago. We were in our usual seats and we were SURROUNDED by Sweaties. I asked them how they got in and they just offered home supporters absolutely silly money for their seats. Apparently last night they virtually took over the North Stand and I did notice a load of Celts going mad when Vennegoor scored..

[dom9]

You wonder where they get their money from?

Although I suppose, there isn't much to look forward if you're a Celtic or Rangers fan. A few trips to Hampden Park is as good as it gets most years.

Imagine how monotonous it must be for them up there. No wonder they put so much energy into hating each other with their sectarian obsessions.

Whoops... gone on a tangent there.

[Rich]

Any of the third tier seating at Old Trafford is that far away from the action, you might as well be sat at home.

That makes a huge difference, hopefully the 60,000 at our new ground will all feel part of the action still and cheer/shout accordingly.

Celtic away from home are always mad - I had tickets for the UEFA Cup final in Seville 3 years ago, on the ridiculous idea we'd get there again - anyway, Celtic v Porto in the final, we couldn't get out of using the hotel and flights, but thought we'd sell our tickets. Ended up flogging £40 tickets for £100 before we left for Seville, bad thing was we got have have £600 a ticket out there!

[Eth]

I’d definitely agree with that. I even worry that 60,000 is too many. I always felt 45,000 was kinda spot on – maybe I’m just biased.

It kicked off last night as well. Just been talking to an OT season ticket holder who was saying he's not seen trouble like that for years. Said it was going off outside Bishop's Blaize and Lou Macari's chippy, all over the forecourt outside the megastore, and INSIDE the ground.

Celtic somehow always seem to take over whatever ground they're visiting. I remember when we lost to Celtic at Anfield in the UEFA Cup a few years ago. We were in our usual seats and we were SURROUNDED by Sweaties. I asked them how they got in and they just offered home supporters absolutely silly money for their seats. Apparently last night they virtually took over the North Stand and I did notice a load of Celts going mad when Vennegoor scored..

Donegal in Ireland (Where I'm from) is absolutely full of celtic supporters - I know generations of celtic season ticket holders - they go to EVERY game home and away - I would follow Celtic's games aswell and have been to a few games - their support is amazing and the craic is always unreal. They would sell their mother to get a ticket.

[rnm]

I thought it was hilarious when they started singing YNWA, the mancs sounded like they were crying with shock

[PTP]

I read somewhere about a week ago that fergie is not happy with the atmosphere and is embarassed about how good it is at the likes of us and man city. He put it down to the fact that we sing YNWA and they have blue moon but UTD don't have an anthem - apparently he has asked someone (some singer he is mates with) to record a version of a song he thinks will be suitable and they are going to start playing it before games at old trafford



Can't remember exact details, if i (or someone with nothing better to do) get a chance, look up what song and which singer, but that was the basic jist of it

[Rich]

Just A Gigolo / I Ain't Got Nobody
Originally a # 1 hit for Ted Lewis in 1931
Remade by David Lee Roth in 1985, it became a # 12 Top 40 hit
I 'm just a gigolo, and everywhere I go,
People know the part I'm playin'.
Pay for every dance, sellin' each romance,
Ooohh what they're sayin'.

There will come a day, when youth will pass away,
What will they say about me?
When the end comes I know, there was just a gigalo
Life goes on without me.

I'm just a gigolo, and everywhere I go,
People know the part I’m playin'.
Pay for every dance, sellin' each romance,
Ooohh what they're sayin'.

There will come a day, when youth will pass away,
What will they say about me?
When the end comes I know, there was just a gigalo,
Life goes on without me.

Cause I ain't got nobody, nobody, cares for me,
Nobody, nobody, cares for me.
I'm so sad and lonely, sad and lonely, sad and lonely
Won't some sweet mama come and take a chance with me?
Cause I ain't so bad.

Bop, boze ziddy boze ziddy bop, zee bop.
I ain't got nobody, nobody cares for me,
Nobody, nobody,

(SOLO)

Mumbaly bibbaly zeebaly boobaly hummaly baybaly zeebaly bop.
I ain't got nobody, nobody, nobody cares for me
Nobody, nobody.
I'm so sad and lonely, sad and lonely, sad and lonely
Won't some sweet mama come and take a chance with me?
Cause I ain't so bad.

Nobody cares for me

[JRG]

How about I'm a ******, or Down Down Deeper and Down.

Did anyone ever release a single called All manc's are ******s?

[Neil Young]

I read somewhere about a week ago that fergie is not happy with the atmosphere and is embarassed about how good it is at the likes of us and man city. He put it down to the fact that we sing YNWA and they have blue moon but UTD don't have an anthem - apparently he has asked someone (some singer he is mates with) to record a version of a song he thinks will be suitable and they are going to start playing it before games at old trafford



Can't remember exact details, if i (or someone with nothing better to do) get a chance, look up what song and which singer, but that was the basic jist of it

Apparently it was Rudolph the Rednosed Reindeer.