United

[NicoBernetini]

Yep totally agree, Carvalho is the best centre back in the premiership and he brings the best out of Terry.

[Ferrrrnando]

Hansen also rates Torres miles higher than Rooney, Berbatov or Tevez.

Do you find that odd too, or do you agree with him?

I've never heard Hansen say that, but Torres is better than all 3 of them by far. They probably pair up better than Torres and any other of our strikers though.

[Joe King]

I've never heard Hansen say that, but Torres is better than all 3 of them by far. They probably pair up better than Torres and any other of our strikers though.

What?

[tommyg]

What?

Think he means that whilst Torres > Berbatov, Rooney etc...

Berbatov + Rooney (i.e. Man U) > Torres + Keane (i.e. Liverpool)

[Joe King]

Think he means that whilst Torres > Berbatov, Rooney etc...

Berbatov + Rooney (i.e. Man U) > Torres + Keane (i.e. Liverpool)

Right...

[magicalbarnes]

Dont call them 'United' it makes you sound like one of their fans.

[cannotmakeit]

Dont call them 'United' it makes you sound like one of their fans.

He is

[Aza]

Rio gets on my tits... "Fings..." "I fink so..." "One, two, free..."

Wish he would speak thucking English now and again

But yes, got to admit, he is a great cb.

Fanks for reading

[DannyMan2006]

I wouldn't swap Carra for any defender in world football. Playing for LFC seems to give an extra 10%.

That said if I was Man City I'd look to buy John Terry as my first choice centre back. He's more of a leader than Rio and is the better defender.

[dww]

There was an interesting stat doing the rounds recently that Chelsea actually gained slightly fewer points when Terry played last season than when he didn't (I'm sure that it was affected by his injury and him being rushed back for big games but the next point remains valid ) whereas they got more with Carvalho in the team. I think that fact that Chelsea have two leaders in defense has been a big part of their success in the last few years.

I think that individual talent in centrebacks is only worth so much (particularly in the case of Ferdinand) what is key is the partnership. Ferdinand and Terry are both very, very good players but really shine in the respective partnerships they have at club level and haven't replicated that form on the international stage very often.

[Joe King]

I think Rafa said it best: Strikers win games. Defenders win titles.

[Kenneth]

Don't really like having a thread on Utd, but when it's to laugh at them, I suppose it's ok.

Scholes is injured, out for 6 to 8 weeks, which means about 2 or 3 in reality, but good all the same.

[Elvoz]

Don't really like having a thread on Utd, but when it's to laugh at them, I suppose it's ok.

Scholes is injured, out for 6 to 8 weeks, which means about 2 or 3 in reality, but good all the same.

they are cunts not "united" far too much respect to them here

[pondus]

Don't really like having a thread on Utd, but when it's to laugh at them, I suppose it's ok.

Scholes is injured, out for 6 to 8 weeks, which means about 2 or 3 in reality, but good all the same.

Really hate it when those things happen, and to such a nice guy too...
cunt that's what he is, good on him
Must be down to him never learning how to tackle

[Ferrrrnando]

I think Rafa said it best: Strikers win games. Defenders win titles.

So Ferdinand must be the best. eh?