Sunderland Watch - For the benefit of Elvoz

[Neil Young]

Lowering the tone as usual Neil.

Hmmm.

[Nicey]

[peekay]

according to the maccams, the biggest problem is keane, he is constantly playing players out of postion mates a season ticket holder and he definetley seems to be houiller mk2.

The problem is, as we know they have bought **** loads of players and its a lot of trial and error to get est cominations, he has bought some ****e though

IIRC in one of the interviews he admitted buying players and then watching them in training and thinking after 5 days I bought the wrong player.

[Shaggy]

according to the maccams, the biggest problem is keane, he is constantly playing players out of postion mates a season ticket holder and he definetley seems to be houiller mk2.

The problem is, as we know they have bought **** loads of players and its a lot of trial and error to get est cominations, he has bought some ****e though

He plays Kieran Richardson in centre midfield!

[Nicey]

He got them Promoted in his first Season and Kept them in the Premiership his 2nd .. there is **** all difference between bottom three and top ten at the moment I would cut him some slack ...

[Elvoz]

He got them Promoted in his first Season and Kept them in the Premiership his 2nd .. there is **** all difference between bottom three and top ten at the moment I would cut him some slack ...

he is losing his marbles pal
and he will walk out - the **** house he is when things dont go his way



i hope he stays though

[Kev_81]

Hmmm.

Got one of those dogs

[Shaggy]

The dog has turned on its owner!


Roy Keane has been told he has “lost the plot” and “isn’t a serious manager” as his future at Sunderland hangs in the balance.

The Ireland legend has been ridiculed by pal Eamonn Dunphy – the man who helped write his life story. Keane has also been accused of wasting a “staggering” amount on players.

Dunphy declared: “I have the highest regard for him, remarkable man, intelligent, family man – but he has lost the plot, big time. He is in a fog at the moment. Everyone gets there at some point in your life, when things get too much for you.

“He’s making some really silly decisions.”

Former pro footballer and Irish broadcaster Dunphy was Keane’s chief defender when he quit the 2002 Ireland World Cup squad in a row with Mick McCarthy.

Keane threw his future into doubt at the weekend by admitting he might wake up one day and decide to quit the Black Cats job.

Dunphy added: “It has been apparent to me for the last 18 months that he isn’t going to be a serious manager. If you look at the players he has brought in and out, remarkable, staggering – and he has wasted a lot of money. He's become a joker. A sham. A nothing manager.

“Maybe he needs to start, like Clough or Shankly, down in the lower leagues and learn the business of management and all its aspects. If you go in too quick you are struggling.

“I don’t think Roy had the chance to learn the business of management.

“I just don’t think Roy has the qualities. He wants to win and he is in serious danger of getting relegated.”

[Red Chilli]

I've said it before, he's the new Robbo

[Elvoz]

There was fresh uncertainty surrounding Roy Keane's future at Sunderland yesterday and, even if he arrives at the club's Whitburn training ground this morning, when he is due to meet his players for the first time in five days, there is no guarantee that he will say that he is staying for a period beyond Saturday's match at Manchester United.

The volatility of the manager's position -- as expressed by Keane after last Saturday's 4-1 home defeat by Bolton Wanderers -- is yet to be addressed publicly by him or the club. But a statement from one or both parties is anticipated because of the instability caused by his stated concern about whether he is the man to lead Sunderland from this point forward.

"I ask myself every single day, 'Am I the right man for Sunderland?'" Keane said last Saturday night.

"I asked myself this morning and the answer was 'yes'. I'll ask myself tomorrow morning and, if the answer is 'no', we'll have a look at it. And I will have to be honest in my assessment."

The situation should become clearer today, though possibly not in the long term.

Criticism

There is no great fan backlash against Keane, though there has been rising criticism of his inconsistent team selection. But the doubt surrounding him in the past seven days has affected the dressing room and has created some more in the most important relationship at any football club -- between the manager and his players.

From the club or from Keane, the players need some direction. Collectively and individually, form has dropped off and there have been documented issues with new signings such as Pascal Chimbonda and El Hadji Diouf. Sunderland are now in the relegation zone and the slump in results will be expected to continue at Old Trafford.

Equally significantly, Sunderland host West Bromwich Albion the following Saturday. It has the look of a six-pointer already -- not what Sunderland were thinking when, for example, they sanctioned £23m to be spent on four Tottenham Hotspur players in July -- though Younes Kaboul did not move.

Discussions between Keane and the club's chairman, Niall Quinn, have been ongoing since Monday.

The focus is on how Sunderland are to arrest a slide in results that has seen them lose six of their past seven matches, including the last four at the Stadium of Light.

Quinn has been out of the country but he returned to Wearside yesterday.

Keane has referred to his "mood swings" in the past and, post-Bolton, is believed to have switched between being resigned to departure and possessing the determination to carry on. If he stays, then this episode might come to be seen as a blip in his maturing as a manager. Last Saturday was his 100th game at Sunderland, covering two years and three months.

If Keane decides to remain, and should Quinn, the Drumaville consortium members behind the purchase of the club two and a half years ago, and the new leading shareholder, Ellis Short, like what they hear from him, then the 37-year-old Corkman will be in place until the end of the season at least. However, Keane has placed himself in a position where he has to explain his future plans and convince those above him and then those below.

Had the woodwork not been struck so frequently recently then results, and confidence, would be brighter. But, since the club were ninth in the Premier League at the end of October, the mood since has grown uneasy and introspective, and that refers not just to the manager.

One player, Andy Reid, said yesterday that there is "no panic" among the playing staff. "Everybody needs to stick together," Reid said. "The manager said that straight after Saturday's game and all the players have been saying it as well. We are the only ones who can pick up the results we need. Other people can say whatever they want but as players we all know it's up to us to turn things around.

"We will only do that if we stick together and believe in our ability. Everybody needs to stay nice and calm. There's no need to panic. It's about keeping your head and carrying on believing in the things that got you to where you are in the first place."

When Keane got to Sunderland they were in the Championship relegation zone, one of the reasons for his popularity on Wearside. But Sunderland are an ambitious and well-resourced club and want to continue to rise.

Yesterday, they announced the appointment of a new chief executive, Steve Walton, and from Feyenoord, Chris Woerts, who will join the board in the new post of international business development director. Supervising a relegation battle is presumably not in either man's brief. (© Independent News Service)

- Michael Walker

[S-RED]

He's gone

[spud_gun]

Keane's left Sunderland

What a cunt he is.

Shows you the measure of the man. As soon as things get a little tough he ****s off.

**** off Roy you cunt.

[Elvoz]

[BFG]

You were only a couple of weeks early with that thread then Elzov mate.

[rudedog]

i am at one with my gayness, thats why i use just for men

sorry couldnt resist