and they say footballers are stupid

[fah-q]

I've read on another forum someone say "this is PC gone mad"

Really? ****ing hell, thats disgusting. It's got **** all to do with "PC" which seems to be the scapegoat for cunts tricks these days.

If it was a private message of support why do it at a football ground?

[Red Chilli]

Really? ****ing hell, thats disgusting. It's got **** all to do with "PC" which seems to be the scapegoat for cunts tricks these days.

If it was a private message of support why do it at a football ground?

I know, for once I managed to temper my response.

[Leyton388]

This cunt needs a ****ing slap. Don't give a **** what happens to him. If i was the chairman of ipswich i would sack that ****er for gross misconduct and sue him for bringing the club into disrespute.

[Diego]

I support Norris as i supported Tim Cahill who did a similar thing last year i think.

Showing support for a friend or a brother in prison is not the same as condoning what they did, it's not a minor thing to go to prison let alone to kill someone.

These celebrations where meant as a support to someone going through one hell of a ****ing time, and where not meant as any disrespect to the family of the deceased, and in no way is he celebrating the death of the victims nor is he saying it's ok to drink and drive, he's just showing support to a friend in need. And i personally see nothing wrong with that.

i think the outrage has more to do with how the media has played it and like always it feeds of blood. Any speculations of banning or anything like that is well over the top imo. All the public ever wants is go back to public hangings.

[Leyton388]

I support Norris as i supported Tim Cahill who did a similar thing last year i think.

Showing support for a friend or a brother in prison is not the same as condoning what they did, it's not a minor thing to go to prison let alone to kill someone.

These celebrations where meant as a support to someone going through one hell of a ****ing time, and where not meant as any disrespect to the family of the deceased, and in no way is he celebrating the death of the victims nor is he saying it's ok to drink and drive, he's just showing support to a friend in need. And i personally see nothing wrong with that.

i think the outrage has more to do with how the media has played it and like always it feeds of blood. Any speculations of banning or anything like that is well over the top imo. All the public ever wants is go back to public hangings.

How can you as a decent person support a guy who got into his car pissed and mowed down 2 kids and left their father crippled. To say he is supporting his mate who is going through a hell of a time should not be the issue as he will be out of prison in 4 years while the mother and father of those kids will be going through hell for the rest of their lives. If he wants to support his mate ok but dont ****ing do it where it will be shown around the country for the family to see . The guy is a idiot and as far as i am concerned he can stay in prison and should of got life for murder. If you get into a car pissed and kill someone you should go down for murder.

I don't think you would be so understanding if it were your kids or loved ones killed by a dickhead in a range rover bombing it down the m6 while tanked up?

[Diego]

How can you as a decent person support a guy who got into his car pissed and mowed down 2 kids and left their father crippled. To say he is supporting his mate who is going through a hell of a time should not be the issue as he will be out of prison in 4 years while the mother and father of those kids will be going through hell for the rest of their lives. If he wants to support his mate ok but dont ****ing do it where it will be shown around the country for the family to see . The guy is a idiot and as far as i am concerned he can stay in prison and should of got life for murder. If you get into a car pissed and kill someone you should go down for murder.

I don't think you would be so understanding if it were your kids or loved ones killed by a dickhead in a range rover bombing it down the m6 while tanked up?

I just don't see the world so black and white, i'm sorry if that is my defect. I am not diminishing my condolences to the victims family. But you ask 'how you (me) as a decent person support a guy who got into his car pissed and mowed down 2 kids and left their father crippled?' It may be quite surprising to you but friends and family for the most parts support the offender through prison, people realize the actions and the wrong doings yet support the person. People make mistakes in life, there are plenty on this site that have gone drinking and driving, or at least done so once. Many of those will probably claim a moment of madness or a one time mistake, and some of these people will talk very harshly against something like this. The man that killed those kids will carry that cross for the rest of his life, i don't expect anyone to feel sorry for him, but it's not a one sided thing and there are victims with in his side of the family that has to suffer for this great tragedy. I do believe that you can support him through this with out belittling the crime he committed.

[fah-q]

So you don't see Norris's gesture as a slap in the face to the mother and father whose lives are now ruined because of his mates actions?

Im sure he meant no malice in this "show of support" at all, but that doesn't excuse his actions one bit. Its at best, thoughtless and idiotic.

Personally speaking, if one of my mates got in a car pissed and drove like a **** killing innocent people, i'd never speak to them again let alone do what he did. It's inexcusable.

[Joe King]

This show of moral support should be done in private and not in the public domain. Its just a slap in the face to the victims parents.

[Diego]

So you don't see Norris's gesture as a slap in the face to the mother and father whose lives are now ruined because of his mates actions?

Im sure he meant no malice in this "show of support" at all, but that doesn't excuse his actions one bit. Its at best, thoughtless and idiotic.

Personally speaking, if one of my mates got in a car pissed and drove like a **** killing innocent people, i'd never speak to them again let alone do what he did. It's inexcusable.

sure i see why the mother would be upset, and i don't blame her for saying that Norris was by doing this saying that driking and driving was ok. But i understand her anger and frustration would cloud her mind, but i would think that other people can see that by supporting his mate in prison he meant no disrespect towards the victims family. If he would have said that the punishment was unjust or belittled the crime i would be right there with you speaking out against him, but he didn't and i see it as two completely different matters, to support the person that committed this horrendous murders is not the same as condoning the murders them self. The offender has family and friends, that family and friends are shell shocked and are themselves going through a difficult time, some will support him through this others will not, but i think you'll be surprised how many people will stick with him and try and help him through this.

i understand the mothers anger, but there are more sides to the story, it's not just a black and white picture, there are allot of people involved in this, and i just don't see the support of this person as an insult to these victims lives. If he would have belittled the crime or had he spoken out about the unjust punishment than that could have be interpreted as such but not a signal of support.

[fah-q]

He should keep his support in private and take it into the public arena, otherwise its disrespectful, inappropriate and shameful.

It is fairly black and white in this case, his mate was a class A cunt who has taken not only two lives but also ruined the lives of the families involved (including his own). He should have had the brain cells to ask himself the question (and this is clearly premeditated so he would have had time); is this a good idea or does it step over the boundaries of normal human behaviour?
Would this gesture, no matter how innocent it seems to me, cause upset and offence to the still grieving parents?

If it was, as he said, "a private message" to his mate then it should be kept in private between the two of them.

[Diego]

He should keep his support in private and take it into the public arena, otherwise its disrespectful, inappropriate and shameful.

It is fairly black and white in this case, his mate was a class A cunt who has taken not only two lives but also ruined the lives of the families involved (including his own). He should have had the brain cells to ask himself the question (and this is clearly premeditated so he would have had time); is this a good idea or does it step over the boundaries of normal human behaviour?
Would this gesture, no matter how innocent it seems to me, cause upset and offence to the still grieving parents?

If it was, as he said, "a private message" to his mate then it should be kept in private between the two of them.

I'm sure he realizes this was a mistake, and it spiraled out of control. Thats why he has written a personal letter to the family telling them he's sorry and he didn't mean to disrespect him. And that should be the end of the matter

[Elvoz]

I support Norris as i supported Tim Cahill who did a similar thing last year i think.

Showing support for a friend or a brother in prison is not the same as condoning what they did, it's not a minor thing to go to prison let alone to kill someone.

These celebrations where meant as a support to someone going through one hell of a ****ing time, and where not meant as any disrespect to the family of the deceased, and in no way is he celebrating the death of the victims nor is he saying it's ok to drink and drive, he's just showing support to a friend in need. And i personally see nothing wrong with that.

i think the outrage has more to do with how the media has played it and like always it feeds of blood. Any speculations of banning or anything like that is well over the top imo. All the public ever wants is go back to public hangings.

no offence mate but thats ****e

as stated does this prick not think first ?
did he not think - what about the kids who were murdered ?
so if a player is mates with a mass murderer - or god forbid it someone who killed one of your family you would say the same ?

get a ****in grip
there is no way any right minded person could "support" someone in this way

support him by writing or going to vist him - not by digging the whole incident up for the poor parents who continue to grieve every single day - due to the fact this cunts mate thought he could drive while pissed up

[Elvoz]

I'm sure he realizes this was a mistake, and it spiraled out of control. Thats why he has written a personal letter to the family telling them he's sorry and he didn't mean to disrespect him. And that should be the end of the matter

so why wait for his own statement so long ?
the club announced one out at about 6pm he did hours later

he knows he did wrong

he should at least get some bollocks admit he was wrong and just apologise face to face or even go out into the circle before his next game

i am amazed you can condone what he did

but maybe you havent thought too

[Elvoz]

However, his statement failed to explain what his gesture was or how it was meant to have been interpreted.

Ipswich officials said Norris had written a letter of "regret" to the Peaks.

A spokesman said: "Whilst the club has heard David's explanation that his gesture was in no way intended to condone or support the actions of Luke McCormick, he was found to have been insensitive to the possible interpretation.

"David deeply regrets that his actions have been wrongly misinterpreted."

[Diego]

no offence mate but thats ****e

as stated does this prick not think first ?
did he not think - what about the kids who were murdered ?
so if a player is mates with a mass murderer - or god forbid it someone who killed one of your family you would say the same ?

get a ****in grip
there is no way any right minded person could "support" someone in this way

support him by writing or going to vist him - not by digging the whole incident up for the poor parents who continue to grieve every single day - due to the fact this cunts mate thought he could drive while pissed up

i really hope i would say the same yes, but i doubt it because i would probably be full of hate and anger, and i would probably react badly. But that doesn't make what he did any more wrong. My reaction alone as a grieving family member is not enough to hinder that he could show support to his mate. But it would be allot different if he had spoke out about the case and how unjust that is that would have been much more serious.

he didn't commit any crime, he didn't set any bad examples. His action just caught the medias attention and spiraled out of control. There is no need in hanging him for this, the murderer is already in prison and rightly so. He has probably learnt his lesson, and will think twice before doing anything like this in the public eye.