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    #76
    Originally posted by Delinquent View Post
    He's a decent right winger, for a mid-table side. Nothing more. Best player available for that position? At Wigan, maybe. The options begin to improve dramatically as you move further South though. They've bought a player who can run fast, occasionally put a decent ball in, and has averaged less than a goal every 10 games during his time at Wigan.

    If this is the benchmark for their £20m signings then I hope they sign another three of them and waste ALL of the money they got for Ronaldo, not just a quarter of it. I'm actually astounded (but nevertheless delighted) that Ferguson has bought into the inexplicable hype surrounding him.
    He's very comfortable on the ball, can get forward quickly or hold up play. He's a very intelligent player, that's why Ferguson has paid so much for him.

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      #77
      Fair enough if you think that. I strongly disagree though. I actually think he has similar issues to Babel in that he's NOT an intelligent player. That's half his problem. He has ability but too often fails to capitalize on dangerous situations with poor decision-making.

      I think Utd fans will find him extremely frustrating.
      "I never think of the future. It comes soon enough."

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        #78
        Originally posted by Delinquent View Post
        Fair enough if you think that. I strongly disagree though. I actually think he has similar issues to Babel in that he's NOT an intelligent player. That's half his problem. He has ability but too often fails to capitalize on dangerous situations with poor decision-making.

        I think Utd fans will find him extremely frustrating.
        I think it's one of those odd situations where the truth is somewhere in between but both impressions have merit and at a top club he could go either way. He makes excellent runs off the ball whenever I have seen him and uses his acceleration really well. However he doesn't use the ball intelligently in the final third and is a far from clinical finisher. I'd back Fergie to polish him up as a player though.
        "The man who never alters his opinion is like standing water, and breeds reptiles of the mind."
        -- William Blake

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          #79
          Originally posted by Parm View Post
          Hargreaves may have to retire through injury
          Giggs and Scholes are not the players they were and will have be replaced
          Anderson is suspect,
          Nani is suspect
          Ronaldo has now gone
          Park wont win them anything on his own

          So therefore I think that midfield will need to be completely overhauled
          I don't know, Anderson is a decent player if he finds form again, Xabi did it so why not Anderson.

          A midfield of Fletcher, Carrick, Anderson, Valencia, Nani and Park may not sound world class but I think it suits United well enough they have Evra offering width on the left and with Berbatov upfront and Rooney in his vicinity they will always have chances and goals.

          If Hargreves returns there midfield will have lots of energy and movement and they will remain solid at the back.

          I think now is the best time for Fergie to break up his team and rebuild it after winning three titles on the run, in order to prevent his players from becoming complacent and keep the squad hungry.
          * The above is posted in my opinion. Feel free to disagree.

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            #80
            Originally posted by The_weatherman View Post
            I don't know, Anderson is a decent player if he finds form again, Xabi did it so why not Anderson.

            A midfield of Fletcher, Carrick, Anderson, Valencia, Nani and Park may not sound world class but I think it suits United well enough they have Evra offering width on the left and with Berbatov upfront and Rooney in his vicinity they will always have chances and goals.

            If Hargreves returns there midfield will have lots of energy and movement and they will remain solid at the back.

            I think now is the best time for Fergie to break up his team and rebuild it after winning three titles on the run, in order to prevent his players from becoming complacent and keep the squad hungry.

            Did Anderson ever have form? i thought he had a couple of brilliant games, 1 against us i recall.....there midfield is ****e it will not be good enough now ronaldo has gone.

            I think they will go back to classic 4-4-2 next year Berba and Rooney up front

            Valencia, Nani and Park on the wings with maybe wellbeck making the step up and a centre mid of Hargreaves, carrick, Anderson, fletcher hardly inspires confidence?

            They need another left winger and another top quality Midfielder at the very least imo.
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              #81
              Originally posted by red g View Post
              Did Anderson ever have form? i thought he had a couple of brilliant games, 1 against us i recall.....there midfield is ****e it will not be good enough now ronaldo has gone.

              I think they will go back to classic 4-4-2 next year Berba and Rooney up front

              Valencia, Nani and Park on the wings with maybe wellbeck making the step up and a centre mid of Hargreaves, carrick, Anderson, fletcher hardly inspires confidence?

              They need another left winger and another top quality Midfielder at the very least imo.
              Anderson started really well according to a few United friends of mine but then became inconsistent later in his first season. At the time they said he looked tired but still managed a few good performances. He didn't do anything at all last season to suggest his form might return. I guess it depends what the root cause of his decline was - tiredness, subsequent lack of confidence, arrogance, poor attitude to training, secretly being completely ****, difficulty converting to a new way of playing, who knows?
              "The man who never alters his opinion is like standing water, and breeds reptiles of the mind."
              -- William Blake

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                #82
                Originally posted by TheElephantMan View Post
                He's very comfortable on the ball, can get forward quickly or hold up play. He's a very intelligent player, that's why Ferguson has paid so much for him.
                Originally posted by dww View Post
                I think it's one of those odd situations where the truth is somewhere in between but both impressions have merit and at a top club he could go either way. He makes excellent runs off the ball whenever I have seen him and uses his acceleration really well. However he doesn't use the ball intelligently in the final third and is a far from clinical finisher. I'd back Fergie to polish him up as a player though.
                It's difficult to say at this stage whether he has the mental strength to raise his performances to meet the higher expectations that come with a move to a big club. He doesn't seem to have any composure in the final third, which would be a major worry if I was a Utd fan. Babel is very similar in that respect, and if anything he's gone backwards during his time here.

                While Ferguson is arguably the ideal manager to get the best out of him, I'm not convinced that a) his best will ever be good enough and b) that he's got the mentality to succeed at the highest level anyway.

                Time will tell of course, but I couldn't be less bothered by his signing, personally.
                "I never think of the future. It comes soon enough."

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                  #83
                  Originally posted by red g View Post
                  Did Anderson ever have form? i thought he had a couple of brilliant games, 1 against us i recall.....there midfield is ****e it will not be good enough now ronaldo has gone.

                  I think they will go back to classic 4-4-2 next year Berba and Rooney up front

                  Valencia, Nani and Park on the wings with maybe wellbeck making the step up and a centre mid of Hargreaves, carrick, Anderson, fletcher hardly inspires confidence?

                  They need another left winger and another top quality Midfielder at the very least imo.
                  Whilst they are not that frightening I think Fergusons teams are built around excellent movement without the ball, and it should suit these players well enough (with the exception of Nani maybe). I don't think they will win their fourth consecutive title next season but who knows.

                  As I said I think this is good time for Fergie to rebuild the team which will probably take two summers to do. They have this fella Tosic as well who is supposed to be quite good and with two or three top additions to come this summer they will be serious contenders as usual.
                  * The above is posted in my opinion. Feel free to disagree.

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                    #84
                    Originally posted by Chris View Post
                    He's ****e. Thankfully it wont be us.

                    No goal threat, cant cross. He's just quick and thats it really.
                    not though is he? had a decent season.
                    Always borrow money from a pessimist. He won’t expect it back. Oscar Wilde

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                      #85
                      Yep, he's brilliant. Messi probably watches the DVD of his 5 league goals in awe.

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                        #86
                        Originally posted by Chris View Post
                        Yep, he's brilliant. Messi probably watches the DVD of his 5 league goals in awe.
                        not ****e though is he? he's done better than most expected.
                        Always borrow money from a pessimist. He won’t expect it back. Oscar Wilde

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                          #87
                          Originally posted by BobTheCharmer View Post
                          not ****e though is he? he's done better than most expected.
                          Has he?

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                            #88
                            Originally posted by Chris View Post
                            Has he?
                            He's scored 5 goals, created loads and a constant threat down the right.

                            It was also his cross that created the winner in the league cup final.

                            Plus he's about to win the title and possibly the CL in his first season at a new club. I'd say he's done pretty well overall.

                            Or he's a lucky cunt playing in a **** team of **** players that has been carried to glory by that other **** player, rooney.

                            They can't all be **** however much we hate them.
                            Always borrow money from a pessimist. He won’t expect it back. Oscar Wilde

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                              #89
                              Originally posted by BobTheCharmer View Post
                              He's scored 5 goals
                              And Dirk Kuyt has got 9.

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                                #90
                                Originally posted by Chris View Post
                                And Dirk Kuyt has got 9.
                                so Kuyt must be better then.
                                Always borrow money from a pessimist. He won’t expect it back. Oscar Wilde

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