Champions League: Semi-finals 20. - 28.4. 2010

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If it meant him winning things in the only way he's ever won things - i.e anti-football - then no thanks. I want to us playing good football in the right spirit. I think that stuff's important - sue me. I would derive no pleasure out of winning as ugly as his teams do it. To complain about our style of play and then to call for him baffles me. Some are happy to accept that style and that behaviour to win things (although in reality it obviously comes with no such guarantee), I and others are not.

so you hate mourinho more than you want liverpool to win a title ?

I think the bloke is a horrible piece of work, but there is some sneaky admiration to how he gets the best out of what he has got.

and its been so long that i would take the title nyway it was won

**** morals, i just want another title

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Do you know what I wanted Barca to win tonight & when this happened I wanted them knocked out.

Don't want Inter to win as they are just as bad in the cheating department

Come on Bayern Munich in the final

Ribery and Robben?

[Shaggy]

so you hate mourinho more than you want liverpool to win a title ?

I think the bloke is a horrible piece of work, but there is some sneaky admiration to how he gets the best out of what he has got.

and its been so long that i would take the title nyway it was won

**** morals, i just want another title

No, it's not about Mourinho, it's about us and what I'd hate to see us become. I can understand the other point of view, surely it's not difficult to understand this one.

[Shanks]

If it meant him winning things in the only way he's ever won things - i.e anti-football

In what way.
What is anti football??

and do you honestly think Mourinho has carved out a career playing a negative way.

He's the type of manager people love to hate, that is all.

[Mike]

In what way.
What is anti football??

and do you honestly think Mourinho has carved out a career playing
Anti Football??

Agree.

Mourinho is not playing anti-football, he sets out with tactics that he knows will prevent the opposition's strengths being used against him and obviously uses it to his advantage. So many times Liverpool have scraped a win, particularly last season and all people on here said was "a wins a win at the end of the day". If thats the case then this is the man for the job.

[Shaggy]

In what way.
What is anti football??

and do you honestly think Mourinho has carved out a career playing
Anti Football??

What don't you understand? His teams are defensive, well-organised, cynical cheats who push everything to the limit, try to gain an advantage in every single department, dive, feign injury, roll around, waste time and kill games of football. Inter killed the game tonight, completely killed it and that's to their credit in football terms. No doubt it was a defensive masterclass but that was while there was some football being played. 40% of the time the ball was dead with Inter players feigning injury, like Porto did so disgracefully and then Chelsea too.

[Roboklopp]

What do you want him to do to be honest? Attack Barca at their place? With 10 men? If we're choosing between sympathy or winning, winning takes it every time. I don't see it as any different than some of the ****e Rafa's put out in some European away games.

You'll have to be mad to attack this Barca team.

We attacked Barca at the Camp Nou.

[Shaggy]

Agree.

Mourinho is not playing anti-football, he sets out with tactics that he knows will prevent the opposition's strengths being used against him and obviously uses it to his advantage. So many times Liverpool have scraped a win, particularly last season and all people on here said was "a wins a win at the end of the day". If thats the case then this is the man for the job.

It's not about that all. You're completely missing the point. Last season's scraped wins were through honest endeavour and late surges to score great late goals. We did not spend half of every game rolling around pretending to be injured, taking a whole minute over throw-ins and generally killing games of football.

[Stanbull]

Ribery and Robben?

You have a point

**** it can't be arsed any more cheating *******s the lot of em

Roll on tomorrow, the only thing of real importance

[Exiled_red]

What don't you understand? His teams are defensive, well-organised, cynical cheats who push everything to the limit, try to gain an advantage in every single department, dive, feign injury, roll around, waste time and kill games of football. Inter killed the game tonight, completely killed it and that's to their credit in football terms. No doubt it was a defensive masterclass but that was while there was some football being played. 40% of the time the ball was dead with Inter players feigning injury, like Porto did so disgracefully and then Chelsea too.

It's not about that all. You're completely missing the point. Last season's scraped wins were through honest endeavour and late surges to score great late goals. We did not spend half of every game rolling around pretending to be injured, taking a whole minute over throw-ins and generally killing games of football.

[Craig_H]

If it meant him winning things in the only way he's ever won things - i.e anti-football - then no thanks. I want to see us playing good football in the right spirit. I think that stuff's important - sue me. I would derive no pleasure out of winning as ugly as his teams do it. To complain about our style of play and then to call for him baffles me. Some are happy to accept that style and that behaviour to win things (although in reality it obviously comes with no such guarantee), I and others are not.

Yet you want rafa to stay?

Mate, winning 'ugly' is how we won the european cup - remember turin?

[Vermilion]

It's not about that all. You're completely missing the point. Last season's scraped wins were through honest endeavour and late surges to score great late goals. We did not spend half of every game rolling around pretending to be injured, taking a whole minute over throw-ins and generally killing games of football.

Really don't get how some just don't understand the concept that winning isn't everything to everyone, oh yes the quote gets bandied about willy nilly, but in life...you have to have certain personal standards, and you need to stick to them because for you they are correct....otherwise everything in life is skewed and you become nothing more than a hypocrite, we are all different and should really just respect the others opinion, it does not mean one or the other loves lfc the club more, and it's wrong for anyone to suggest that imo.

[Mike]

It's not about that all. You're completely missing the point. Last season's scraped wins were through honest endeavour and late surges to score great late goals. We did not spend half of every game rolling around pretending to be injured, taking a whole minute over throw-ins and generally killing games of football.

Ah, I see mate

At the end of the day i want us to win trophies and under Mourinho's guidance we are more liklely to achieve that.

And no i dont want us cheating and rolling around all of the time...

[Shaggy]

Yet you want rafa to stay?

Mate, winning 'ugly' is how we won the european cup - remember turin?

Again this is part of my point. We went there and put in an honest performance full of grit and endeavour. There's nothing wrong with it, we've done it time and again. All great teams need to do it on occasion. What we've never done is resort to all that anti-football game-killing cheating ****.

[Craig_H]

What don't you understand? His teams are defensive, well-organised, cynical cheats who push everything to the limit, try to gain an advantage in every single department, dive, feign injury, roll around, waste time and kill games of football. Inter killed the game tonight, completely killed it and that's to their credit in football terms. No doubt it was a defensive masterclass but that was while there was some football being played. 40% of the time the ball was dead with Inter players feigning injury, like Porto did so disgracefully and then Chelsea too.

They killed the game because they were down to 10 men and this was the only way to progress.

Put it this way, if it was us down to 10 men and Rafa 'killed the game' and got us through, i'd be ****ing delighted. We've played that way many times away from home in europe, there's nothing wrong with making your team hard to beat, even if it means stifling the footballing life out of the game - their objective is to get the result.

We attacked Barca at the Camp Nou.

In the first leg, yes. Not in the 2nd leg, defending a lead.

Did we attack Juventus in the Delle Alpi?