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Paul.S
I think I remember it from the outcry first time round - think there were a lot of people who were amazed there was a Frenchman called Pete Jenkins who played for Metz
"When a man insults my country I insult him, by taking his woman" Tony Yeboah
"looking through your posts since 2007 and what you have consistently written about my football team I have come to the conclusion that if you had 1 more brain cell you would be a plant .. your father was a hamster and your mother smells of elder berries, I fart in your general direction ..." Nicey
Truly spectacular freekick. I dunno If I've ever seen swerve like that one..
When I was a kid, we were all obsessed with making footballs swerve. Of course, they were all made of soggy leather back then, so you really had to work at it.
France's World Cup plans have been thrown into turmoil by divisions within their squad over whether Thierry Henry should start against Urguguay tomorrow.
Senior French players, led by Nicolas Anelka and Franck Ribery, have put pressure on coach Raymond Domenech to include Henry ahead of Sidney Govou, and Abou Diaby in place of Yoann Gourcuff.
Those players pressing for Henry's inclusion from the start in the Group A opener in Cape Town claim the former Arsenal forward's experience and presence demands he is named in France's starting line-up.
Although Henry remains France's record goalscorer, the 32-year-old became a peripheral player at Barcelona last season and can no longer rely on being an automatic choice for his country.
The disharmony within the French ranks is said to be such that Anelka refused to pass to Gourcuff in a recent friendly against Costa Rica, while Ribery allegedly took the ball from the young Bordeaux star as he prepared to take a free-kick.
France midfielder Jeremy Toulalan admitted relationships were strained among some of the players within the squad, but insisted it did not mean Domenech's players would not be able to perform effectively in South Africa.
"In any time your relationships with certain people can be much stronger than with others," said Lyon midfielder Toulalan. "But on the pitch you don't have to the best friends in the world to play with somebody."
France full-back Eric Abidal, one of those who has supported the inclusion of his Barcelona team-mate Henry, said: "We can try and put our ideas together and try and find a middle ground but in the end it's the manager who decides."
And Arsenal defender Bacary Sagna admitted no amount of player pressure on Domenech would force the famously stubborn coach to change his mind about what his starting line-up should be.
Domenech sprung a major shock when he refused to include Real Madrid striker Karim Benzema and Arsenal playmaker Samir Nasri in his final 23-man squad, while also resisting calls from senior players to recall veteran midfielder Patrick Vieira, now at Manchester City.
"There is no debate," said Abidal. "The coach has to make his decisions and everyone has to accept it. We can maybe give him some advice or help but, even if we were to offer it, I don't think he would listen. The most important thing is the team."
France goalkeeper Hugo Lloris has warned his team-mates they will come unstuck in their World Cup opener against Uruguay - just as they did in 2002 in losing to Senegal - if they underestimate their South American opponents.
"We must be wary of the whole Uruguay team," said Lloris. "For us, the most important thing is to take our game and provide the means to win. We know the importance of this first game."
France have not had the most impressive of World Cup build-ups in terms of results, losing 1-0 to China last Friday, having come from behind to beat Costa Rica 2-1 and only managing a 1-1 draw with Tunisia in their previous warm-up games.
But Lloris said those results would have no bearing on how France perform in South Africa. "They're warm-up matches," said Lloris. "They're there to make mistakes. The most important thing is to do the basics well, to analyse things and make improvements immediately in the next game.
"Today, in the squad, everyone is saying the same thing - everyone has the same ideas and the same goal. We know where we're going. What we need to improve is our efficiency in the final 35 metres, the final pass, what choice to make.
"Even though everyone is aware that there are still areas for improvement in the group, the atmosphere is good. The group is serene and confident. We will need everyone. In this kind of competition, matches are won not by 11 players but by 23."
Chelsea and France winger Flourent Malouda said: "We have to create links between players. We can't just think: 'I'm not interested in what others do'. We're going to look ridiculous if, as we did at Euro 2008, each player stays in his comfort zone aiming only for good marks from the media to the detriment of the team."
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Very sad to see French side in such turmoil. Player for player, they should be in close contention to go all the way....Too bad it won't happen.
Bof, c'est la guerre.
shrugs shoulders
. Suppose you have a physicist and a sociologist standing at the side of a field, observing a set of events unfolding on the field. The physicist does [describes] it using the terminology of mass and velocity and frequency of radiation and the rest. And the sociologist does it by describing it as a rugby match.
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