Group H (Spain, Chile, Honduras, Switzerland)

[Shaggy]

I really dont get it.

Just the other week, they dicked Poland 6-0.

There's not that much of a difference in quality between Switzerland and Poland.

Just dont understand what's happening this tournament.

Also Switzerland cost me nearly £200 in an acca when they lost 1-0 at home to Costa ****ing Rica about two weeks ago. ******s. **** World Cup, sick of defensive ****e.

[Craig_H]

Torres potentially through on goal, but lets the ball bounce off him far too far ahead of him, and the keeper collects.

[Kenneth]

You've backed the Swiss?!

Even my bets aren't that mental. Backed North Korea for 0-0 at HT and 3-1 Brazil at FT for a fiver. Think it was something like 250-1.

[Vermilion]

Mick McCarthy's in love with ****ing Howard Webb.

How do you know...have they been caught at it ?

[Craig_H]

If this stays 1-0, Spain arent assured to even go through.

[-V-]

I blame 4-2-3-1. Its too easy to defend against and yet these 'world class coaches' still can't understand that. Brazil played 2 holding mids against ****ing north korea and not spain did the same against another team that were obviously going to defend for their lives. Its just so pointless. I feared spain would use busquets today and they did. It takes away from their natural creativity. 1 less man going forward

[Craig_H]

WTF was that from Pedro?

Just head it back into the mix. Stupid twonk volleys it behind.

5 mins added time.

[Fernandinho]

i havent put a bet down yet and im very glad i havent, i might only bet on games one by one if i do at all

[Craig_H]

I blame 4-2-3-1. Its too easy to defend against and yet these 'world class coaches' still can't understand that. Brazil played 2 holding mids against ****ing north korea and not spain did the same against another team that were obviously going to defend for their lives. Its just so pointless

That system should be fine if you have a world class target man who can finish, and if the three players playing behind him are all top quality, with pace, the ability to run at defenders, and create.

[Craig_H]

I cant work out whether the delivery into the box has just been ****e, or whether the attacking teams havent committed enough bodies into the area.

[Shaggy]

I blame 4-2-3-1. Its too easy to defend against and yet these 'world class coaches' still can't understand that. Brazil played 2 holding mids against ****ing north korea and not spain did the same against another team that were obviously going to defend for their lives. Its just so pointless. I feared spain would use busquets today and they did. It takes away from their natural creativity. 1 less man going forward

It's a good formation when you're playing against relative equals, but I totally agree - against significantly weaker sides it's a total waste of ****ing time.

[Kenneth]

If you're looking for a first scorer bet before the game you could make a case for any of about 6 or 7 spanish players. There's no excuse for their impotence, including their formation.

[Shaggy]

That system should be fine if you have a world class target man who can finish, and if the three players playing behind him are all top quality, with pace, the ability to run at defenders, and create.

Again I agree but Spain have exactly that. There's a man essentially wasted, sitting deep and doing nothing, not being tested defensively and barely contributing going forward.

[Fernandinho]

like i said before i think a lot has to do with the off the ball movement being too safe, moving out wide into space and then trying to squeeze a ball back into the box which is too difficult when only 1 or 2 men are in there, the off the ball movement needs to be more inventive, through the middle. its riskier and you will loose possession more but its worth the risk. this obsession with possession just aint worth it

[Craig_H]

One of the swiss defenders is called eggy man.