Andy Carroll - Best Striker in the World

[Norbs]

A new born deer a touch harsh

He clearly doesn't fit into our plans and I sure Rodgers hasn't just decided to get rid without thinking about it properly he will likely have seen extensive coaching reports on him as well as seeing him and how he works himself, Rodgers is 100% doing the right thing for what he wants as a team by looking to move him on and invest that money into someone that fits into what he wants from a player

I would've stretched to unborn deer and it still wouldn't be harsh

[Norbs]

IMO it is more a lack of leadership than a tactical problem. That is probably why for example Carra played instead of Skrtel.

What I want to see is players that get angry and upset when they play bad but instead in many games the players just give up.

Rodgers clearly know about the problem because he have talked about it a few times.

Carroll isn't the answer but to treat him the way we done send out wrong signals. He didn't even got a fair chance by Rodgers. Not even in pre-season.

I can understand if he is pissed off and may want to cash in as much as he can.

Carroll is greedy but the club isn't blameless.

Alway

[Mattshark]

We will just have to agree to disagree.

Rodgers is a very good manager but he got his weaknesses just like any other manager.

IMO Rodgers way to sort out a problem player is to sell him and not try to sort out the problem but as I said. That is my opinion.

Many managers do the same. In some cases it is a strenght and in some a weakness. Some times it works out and in some cases it don't.

Yes and in what world do you think Carroll's control and passing ability would suit our style?

[RichC]

A new born deer a touch harsh

He clearly doesn't fit into our plans and I sure Rodgers hasn't just decided to get rid without thinking about it properly he will likely have seen extensive coaching reports on him as well as seeing him and how he works himself, Rodgers is 100% doing the right thing for what he wants as a team by looking to move him on and invest that money into someone that fits into what he wants from a player

[Arn]

Nonsense, you are just using the ****eness of Carroll as another stick to beat Rodgers with.

The fact that Carroll has the technical ability of a new born deer is enough to know he wouldn't fit the system. That is no secret.

We will just have to agree to disagree.

Rodgers is a very good manager but he got his weaknesses just like any other manager.

IMO Rodgers way to sort out a problem player is to sell him and not try to sort out the problem but as I said. That is my opinion.

Many managers do the same. In some cases it is a strenght and in some a weakness. Some times it works out and in some cases it don't.

[Mattshark]

It really isn't. A top class manager would sort that problem out very quickly.

IMO.

Rodgers should have given him a fair chance in pre-season. If he then didn't want him to stay after we signed a replacement then it would be ok.

Rodgers can't have a clue if Carroll fit the system or not so I don't buy that excuse. It is all about money IMO.

Nonsense, you are just using the ****eness of Carroll as another stick to beat Rodgers with.

The fact that Carroll has the technical ability of a new born deer is enough to know he wouldn't fit the system. That is no secret.

[Arn]

Well, we made the worst transfer in the history of the club.

Should we have pretended we really wanted to keep him? What difference would that have made exactly? Rodgers will have seen him training too, where he'll have been equally unsuitable.

It is Carroll's fault he is so bloody lazy too.

It really isn't. A top class manager would sort that problem out very quickly.

IMO.

Rodgers should have given him a fair chance in pre-season. If he then didn't want him to stay after we signed a replacement then it would be ok.

Rodgers can't have a clue if Carroll fit the system or not so I don't buy that excuse. It is all about money IMO.

[Mattshark]

IMO it is more a lack of leadership than a tactical problem. That is probably why for example Carra played instead of Skrtel.

What I want to see is players that get angry and upset when they play bad but instead in many games the players just give up.

Rodgers clearly know about the problem because he have talked about it a few times.

Carroll isn't the answer but to treat him the way we done send out wrong signals. He didn't even got a fair chance by Rodgers. Not even in pre-season.

I can understand if he is pissed off and may want to cash in as much as he can.

Carroll is greedy but the club isn't blameless.

Well, we made the worst transfer in the history of the club.

Should we have pretended we really wanted to keep him? What difference would that have made exactly? Rodgers will have seen him training too, where he'll have been equally unsuitable.

It is Carroll's fault he is so bloody lazy too.

[Arn]

I don't think we were that 'predictable' either. There were just some matches we inexplicably just didn’t show up for and even if we had Messi coming off the bench, it would have made little difference.

Besides, we are going to have a very different looking side next year, so we are already adding something different to decent scoring team from last season.

IMO it is more a lack of leadership than a tactical problem. That is probably why for example Carra played instead of Skrtel.

What I want to see is players that get angry and upset when they play bad but instead in many games the players just give up.

Rodgers clearly know about the problem because he have talked about it a few times.

Carroll isn't the answer but to treat him the way we done send out wrong signals. He didn't even got a fair chance by Rodgers. Not even in pre-season.

I can understand if he is pissed off and may want to cash in as much as he can.

Carroll is greedy but the club isn't blameless.

[Fosterbloke]

Carroll didn't pay 35m
Carroll didn't sign himself.
Carroll didn't offer himself huge wages.
Carroll didn't give himself the 5 year contract.

I have no idea where all the venom for Carroll is coming from. If you must slag someone off, slag off the people that signed him.

Because it sounds like he's being a greedy cunt when it comes to wages. Other than that I agree with all of your points.

[DKdan]

With the risk of sounding like Arn:

Anyone else think that Carroll is in place at West Ham, and we have asked them not to make it public?

With 15m further in our pockets, surely other clubs will hike the prices a bit further.

Example: It would be better that we signed Mkhitaryan before selling Carroll.

I dunno...

[RedReet]

I don't think we were that 'predictable' either. There were just some matches we inexplicably just didn’t show up for and even if we had Messi coming off the bench, it would have made little difference.

Besides, we are going to have a very different looking side next year, so we are already adding something different to decent scoring team from last season.

[Mattshark]

It's cliché to bring up a 'plan b', too late I've already done it.

Yes, but plan b is utterly predictable.

[spider-neil]

How would Carroll affect our predictability? Unless you are referencing his ball control?

It's cliché to bring up a 'plan b', too late I've already done it.

[Mattshark]

How would Carroll affect our predictability? Unless you are referencing his ball control?