Other games - 23/24th April

[Craig_H]

Is a fair call.

Just off the top of my head, Blackpool, Wolves and Sunderland at home is 8 extra points straight away.

And then you'd have to ask if Kenny would've been as **** on the road as Roy 'one away win per year' Hodgson. Well Kenny has already won more away wins in less games, than Roy managed.

So maybe another 2 or 3 away wins under Kenny, in games we lost away under Roy = another 6 or 9 points.

Added to the 8 at home = 14 or maybe 17 extra points. So we'd be virtually in the title race, let alone 4th.

Hodgson

[Bender]

You didn't just make a point, you called me a scum supporter and anti-Dalglish...bang out of order but what odds.

stop going around saying we have no chance even if Dalglish had been here earlier because that makes you sound anti-Liverpool......If Dalglish had been here earlier then we would be in the top 4 ...Support your team don't slag them down ............i appologise for the scum remark

[PTP]

****ing cop out. I'm asking for your opinion, something you're quite adept at dishing out here.

Personally I think it cost us at least 9 points. That would have us in contention for a CL place.

but you could argue it the other way as way - the dalgish 'feel good' factor, could well have been the major key in gettings safely into 6th

Had he been here from the start, who knows - that factor could have worn off sooner and we'd still only be six..

- i do agree with rudo here....we were ****e last year, underachieved and finished 7th - we then sacked rafa and sold mascherano so argueably we were a weaker side

I felt, and still do, that on paper we had the 6th best squad in the league - it was just my opinion at the time - but i was thinking this season that if we finished 6th and won a trophy we would have done very well all things considered, - if we had somehow scrapped one of the 4th champions league spots, i think it would have been down to two things - a remarkable performance by us, plus a completle collapse by one of the other teams.

[Craig_H]

we were ****e last year, underachieved and finished 7th - we then sacked rafa and sold mascherano so argueably we were a weaker side

And the PL is considerably weaker too.

[Fosterbloke]

but you could argue it the other way as way - the dalgish 'feel good' factor, could well have been the major key in gettings safely into 6th

Had he been here from the start, who knows - that factor could have worn off sooner and we'd still only be six..

I'd like to think a bit further than this and consider the improvement in the unity and style of play.

- i do agree with rudo here....we were ****e last year, underachieved and finished 7th - we then sacked rafa and sold mascherano so argueably we were a weaker side

Rafa was tired and Mascher didn't want to play for us. Removing them probably made us stronger. We managed to hire a ****ing clueless manager.

I felt, and still do, that on paper we had the 6th best squad in the league - it was just my opinion at the time - but i was thinking this season that if we finished 6th and won a trophy we would have done very well all things considered, - if we had somehow scrapped one of the 4th champions league spots, i think it would have been down to two things - a remarkable performance by us, plus a completle collapse by one of the other teams.

Then you are a prediction genius but in hindsight, do you not think that with the players we had (plus whoever else Kenny signed had he been hired from the beginning) we would have more points on the board?

[PTP]

stop going around saying we have no chance even if Dalglish had been here earlier because that makes you sound anti-Liverpool......If Dalglish had been here earlier then we would be in the top 4 ...Support your team don't slag them down ............i appologise for the scum remark

lol - i can't believe i am doing this....but how do you know?

For all we know, we could have appointed dalglish at the start of the season....and it could have gone even worse - we might have got stuck with hicks and gillette, we might not have sold torres, meaning he'd still be sulking and causing problems, and we wouldn't have got the major boost from the two exciting new signings in January....

I'm not slagging the club off, or trying to bring anyone down - but i do find it suprising that people saying had dalgish been here from the satrt of the season we'd have easily finished top 4 - there is no guarentee that would have happened at all.

I think kenny's a legend, i wanted him last year before hodgson, and i want him to get the job full time, and i also have a feeling that he might even be the man too win us the title at some point in the next few years.......

But that doesn't change the fact that on paper, i feel we have a weaker squad than the 5 teams above us....

Being negative maybe a little, but it's just an opinion...

I feel we lack 3 or 4 good players in a few key positions - it doesn't matter if it's kenny, rafa, hodgson or jesus christ in charge, i felt that we'd struggle without those positions filled....

[PTP]

I'd like to think a bit further than this and consider the improvement in the unity and style of play.



Rafa was tired and Mascher didn't want to play for us. Removing them probably made us stronger. We managed to hire a ****ing clueless manager.



Then you are a prediction genius but in hindsight, do you not think that with the players we had (plus whoever else Kenny signed had he been hired from the beginning) we would have more points on the board?

yes...I am a prediction genius

[PTP]

I'd like to think a bit further than this and consider the improvement in the unity and style of play.



Rafa was tired and Mascher didn't want to play for us. Removing them probably made us stronger. We managed to hire a ****ing clueless manager.



Then you are a prediction genius but in hindsight, do you not think that with the players we had (plus whoever else Kenny signed had he been hired from the beginning) we would have more points on the board?

yes - we might have been....but then who knows, we could still have been in with a chance of the europa and fa cup, so therefore, we might have thought....lets go and win those two trophies, which could have effected our league performance....Or...who knows....we might have found new owners who said, sorry lads we don't want kenny we want our own man in? -

Hodgson was clearly out his depth - which is why we were struggling in the bottom half because everyone was ****ed off

Kenny - has clearly done an outstanding job to come in and change it round and get us back into a respectable position, and i also think given the time and the funds he will win us the league..


But i don't know what would have happened had he took over for the start of the season...yes in hindsight, we might have had more points....but.....spurs might not have done so well in europe so therefore concentrated on the league more...Dzeko and Ballotelli might not have turned out to be complete ****e, and fired man city to the title -

[Bender]

lol - i can't believe i am doing this....but how do you know?

For all we know, we could have appointed dalglish at the start of the season....and it could have gone even worse - we might have got stuck with hicks and gillette, we might not have sold torres, meaning he'd still be sulking and causing problems, and we wouldn't have got the major boost from the two exciting new signings in January....

I'm not slagging the club off, or trying to bring anyone down - but i do find it suprising that people saying had dalgish been here from the satrt of the season we'd have easily finished top 4 - there is no guarentee that would have happened at all.

I think kenny's a legend, i wanted him last year before hodgson, and i want him to get the job full time, and i also have a feeling that he might even be the man too win us the title at some point in the next few years.......

But that doesn't change the fact that on paper, i feel we have a weaker squad than the 5 teams above us....

Being negative maybe a little, but it's just an opinion...

I feel we lack 3 or 4 good players in a few key positions - it doesn't matter if it's kenny, rafa, hodgson or jesus christ in charge, i felt that we'd struggle without those positions filled....

No more living in denial for you then

Based on current form we would have been in with a better shout.were 6th with a chance of 5th and outside for 4th were not 15th or 16th this what i am basing it on

[Craig_H]

The idea that anyone thinking Kenny would have had us in the top 4 is 'deluded', is just silly.

[Rowan]

lol - i can't believe i am doing this....but how do you know?

For all we know, we could have appointed dalglish at the start of the season....and it could have gone even worse - we might have got stuck with hicks and gillette, we might not have sold torres, meaning he'd still be sulking and causing problems, and we wouldn't have got the major boost from the two exciting new signings in January....

I'm not slagging the club off, or trying to bring anyone down - but i do find it suprising that people saying had dalgish been here from the satrt of the season we'd have easily finished top 4 - there is no guarentee that would have happened at all.

I think kenny's a legend, i wanted him last year before hodgson, and i want him to get the job full time, and i also have a feeling that he might even be the man too win us the title at some point in the next few years.......

But that doesn't change the fact that on paper, i feel we have a weaker squad than the 5 teams above us....

Being negative maybe a little, but it's just an opinion...

I feel we lack 3 or 4 good players in a few key positions - it doesn't matter if it's kenny, rafa, hodgson or jesus christ in charge, i felt that we'd struggle without those positions filled....

Bloody hell PeeTeePee. Never had you pegged for a Manc!

[PTP]

**** it....Spearing for Prime Minister

[Rudo]

but you could argue it the other way as way - the dalgish 'feel good' factor, could well have been the major key in gettings safely into 6th

Had he been here from the start, who knows - that factor could have worn off sooner and we'd still only be six..

- i do agree with rudo here....we were ****e last year, underachieved and finished 7th - we then sacked rafa and sold mascherano so argueably we were a weaker side

I felt, and still do, that on paper we had the 6th best squad in the league - it was just my opinion at the time - but i was thinking this season that if we finished 6th and won a trophy we would have done very well all things considered, - if we had somehow scrapped one of the 4th champions league spots, i think it would have been down to two things - a remarkable performance by us, plus a completle collapse by one of the other teams.

bang on, the Dalglish factor has certainly played a massive part in our revival - the players are too afraid to let him down as they know what a legend the man is, but had he been in charge at the start of the season, who's to say the Dalglish factor wouldn't have crashed and burned by Xmas??

We're all on a high because things couldn't have got much worse just before Kenny took over. We were a laughing stock, Kenny and Steve Clarke have worked wonders on what is a very average Liverpool team/squad but to say we'd be top 4 if they were here at the start of the season is in my eyes a bit far fetched. You can only work with what you got.

I generally don't like cliches in football, but the league table doesn't lie.
You end up where you should end up after 38 games despite all the ifs, buts and maybes.

[Bender]

bang on, the Dalglish factor has certainly played a massive part in our revival - the players are too afraid to let him down as they know what a legend the man is, but had he been in charge at the start of the season, who's to say the Dalglish factor wouldn't have crashed and burned by Xmas??

We're all on a high because things couldn't have got much worse just before Kenny took over. We were a laughing stock, Kenny and Steve Clarke have worked wonders on what is a very average Liverpool team/squad but to say we'd be top 4 if they were here at the start of the season is in my eyes a bit far fetched. You can only work with what you got.

I generally don't like cliches in football, but the league table doesn't lie.
You end up where you should end up after 38 games despite all the ifs, buts and maybes.

so by that comment you don't want him in charge next season or for a complete season............... excuse me while i go slash my wrists then drink my own blood

[Fosterbloke]

bang on, the Dalglish factor has certainly played a massive part in our revival - the players are too afraid to let him down as they know what a legend the man is, but had he been in charge at the start of the season, who's to say the Dalglish factor wouldn't have crashed and burned by Xmas??

Who's to say that Jesus' second coming won't gatecrash next season's schedule?