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So you think the management/mismanagement of Chelski has no impact on our attempt to get fourth?
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You can't win Shaggy.
I'm flabbergasted that any LFC fan can have such an opinion about a manager that won us an European Cup and FA Cup. And brought us so many fantastic players. And made us the most feared side in Europe. And always treated the fans with the upmost respect. And came very close to winning the league.
But that isn't good enough for some.
Last edited by Rich; 24-02-12, 02:50 PM.
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I'm honestly not bothered. We shouldn’t be concerned about what other teams are doing.Originally posted by fidget View PostCan you just clarify when exactly you would be happy with him getting the job?
Next season would be far less harmful to us than tomorrow.
That's got to be the biggest load of **** ever.Originally posted by Shaggy View PostNope, not in the slightest. There's a tiny minority of us (with our eyes open, the ones who actually paid attention) swimming against the vast relentless tide of tabloid, Sky Sports News fuelled negativity, built on sensationalism and selectiveness. These people can't think for themselves - they've all bought into the Keys & Gray narrative, which most of us know is complete and utter horse****.
I give up. You win, I wont visit this thread again. I promise
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Nope, not in the slightest. There's a tiny minority of us (with our eyes open, the ones who actually paid attention) swimming against the vast relentless tide of tabloid, Sky Sports News fuelled negativity, built on sensationalism and selectiveness. These people can't think for themselves - they've all bought into the Keys & Gray narrative, which most of us know is complete and utter horse****.Originally posted by AnfieldForever View PostHypocritical? Isn’t that what the rest of you are doing?
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If that's what you "wanted to point out", you went about it in a strange way....Originally posted by AnfieldForever View PostI appreciate everything he’s done for Liverpool, I’ve never doubted that.
What I was trying to point out is that:
- I was glad he was sacked, the timing was right
- Spent millions on ****
- We played dire football at times
- Think that too many people have an un-healthy view of how good he was
- Saying that I wouldn’t be fussed if he replaced AVB
"you will realise he's not as good as you think he is"
No, that's obviously not what I'm telling you. I specifically referred to the European Cup. Not "every single manager who's ever won a trophy for us".Originally posted by AnfieldForever View PostAre you honestly telling me that you’ve got the same respect for every former player that has won trophies for Liverpool (every single one?)
Houllier has been hammered on here several times, he won trophies too, doesn’t he deserve respect in the same way?
Only three managers (3) in our entire history have achieved that.
Three managers. In our entire history.
Rafa is one of them.
I have even more respect for the other two but less personal affection, as they were before my time/when I was very young.Last edited by Shaggy; 24-02-12, 02:38 PM.
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Hypocritical? Isn’t that what the rest of you are doing?Originally posted by destinydude View PostHerd mentality.
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Originally posted by AnfieldForever View PostI appreciate everything he’s done for Liverpool, I’ve never doubted that.
What I was trying to point out is that:
- I was glad he was sacked, the timing was right
- Spent millions on **** Everyone has bad buys
- We played dire football at times Everyone has bad patches. But we were no where near as boring as Chelsea and they won the league
- Think that too many people have an un-healthy view of how good he was Define unhealthy
- Saying that I wouldn’t be fussed if he replaced AVB
Are you honestly telling me that you’ve got the same respect for every former player that has won trophies for Liverpool (every single one?)
Houllier has been hammered on here several times, he won trophies too, doesn’t he deserve respect in the same way?
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I appreciate everything he’s done for Liverpool, I’ve never doubted that.Originally posted by Shaggy View Post"minions"
Is there really any need to be so bitter about his success and the respect he has from most Reds
You want him to fail - that's up to you. It's bitter, but it's up to you. Personally I think Reds should show more respect to a European Cup winning LFC manager. In 3 years he took Liverpool FC to the same amount of European Cup finals as Manchester United had reached in their entire history.
What I was trying to point out is that:
- I was glad he was sacked, the timing was right
- Spent millions on ****
- We played dire football at times
- Think that too many people have an un-healthy view of how good he was
- Saying that I wouldn’t be fussed if he replaced AVB
Are you honestly telling me that you’ve got the same respect for every former player that has won trophies for Liverpool (every single one?)
Houllier has been hammered on here several times, he won trophies too, doesn’t he deserve respect in the same way?
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Also, I know that people don't like Rafa. But I have never really heard a decent argument for why. People say they don't like his football. But we scored plenty of goals, and didnt concede much. So that cant be it.
So what is it? I'm genuinely interested.
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Thats not good enough though.....Originally posted by Shaggy View Post"minions"
Is there really any need to be so bitter about his success and the respect he has from most Reds
You want him to fail - that's up to you. It's bitter, but it's up to you. Personally I think Reds should show more respect to a European Cup winning LFC manager. In 3 years he took Liverpool FC to the same amount of European Cup finals as Manchester United had reached in their entire history.
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