Villas Boas (EX) Chelsea manager

[Shaggy]

"minions"

Is there really any need to be so bitter about his success and the respect he has from most Reds

You want him to fail - that's up to you. It's bitter, but it's up to you. Personally I think Reds should show more respect to a European Cup winning LFC manager. In 3 years he took Liverpool FC to the same amount of European Cup finals as Manchester United had reached in their entire history.

[AnfieldForever]

I love being told how to think.......so if he took the Chelsea job won the league and CL in his first full season would you still love it? Would you be able to move on?

He wont win it though, but yes, I could move on. You can't obviously (referring to your username)

[AnfieldForever]

Thread hijack. Surely move into the Rafa thread?

My site, my thread

I should have known better than to bring this up on a Liverpool forum. I sincerely, apologise for my actions and any pain I cause Rafa, his family, or his minions.

Rafa

[Ben_Itez]

I hope Rafa gets the Chelsea job, it's the only was some of you will actually move on and relise that's he's not as good as you think he is.

I love being told how to think.......so if he took the Chelsea job won the league and CL in his first full season would you still love it? Would you be able to move on?

[dom9]

Thread hijack. Surely move into the Rafa thread?

[Shaggy]

You dont get a good CV in football by not being good at your job. The work he did with the lack of support he had was great. He got very close to winning the league for us. Not many of our managers have done that in the last 20 years.

Rafa is the most successful manager in my lifetime, which is why I hold him up there. Fair enough he didnt win the league. But he won the Champions league, FA cup and got us to a second final.

10 years ago we could only have dreamt of that. Too say he is living off past achievements is a bit much too. The same can be said for Wenger, Capello, Rijkaard and a whole load more. Doesn't make them bad managers. Harry Redknapp is held in higher regard and all he has won is the FA cup in 30 years of trying.

He built the best LFC side in 20 years, against a poisonous backdrop of oppressive ownership and back-stabbing. That's a fact.

Gratitude for you eh

[Alex]

Where did I say his CV was **** though?

There's a woman in my office and her CV is amazing, she's a lazy **** and I not very good at her job, and she's still living off her past achievements. Bit like Rafa really?

You dont get a good CV in football by not being good at your job. The work he did with the lack of support he had was great. He got very close to winning the league for us. Not many of our managers have done that in the last 20 years.

Rafa is the most successful manager in my lifetime, which is why I hold him up there. Fair enough he didnt win the league. But he won the Champions league, FA cup and got us to a second final.

10 years ago we could only have dreamt of that. Too say he is living off past achievements is a bit much too. The same can be said for Wenger, Capello, Rijkaard and a whole load more. Doesn't make them bad managers because they haven't done much recently. Harry Redknapp is held in higher regard and all he has won is the FA cup in 30 years of trying.

[Gibbo]

at the time

Just always curious when people say things like that as ive heard people say he should have gone earlier before.

[Shaggy]

Where did I say his CV was **** though?

There's a woman in my office and her CV is amazing, she's a lazy **** and I not very good at her job, and she's still living off her past achievements. Bit like Rafa really?

Oh aye, exactly like Rafa ...what a great analogy

You said "you will realise he's not as good as you think he is"

I think he's every bit as good as his CV suggests, which is a multiple trophy winner, a trophy winner with each of his last three clubs and a master of the European Cup. What happens in this hypothetical short-term role at Chelsea would have no bearing on that, whether he did well or badly.

[AnfieldForever]

Im not trying to start a whole Rafa debate here but when you say "glad we got shot of him" do you mean at the time that we did or would you have liked him to leave earlier?

at the time

[AnfieldForever]

It doesn't touch a nerve, it was just a ridiculous thing to say

You don't have to like him, but his CV is there for all to see whether you like him or not.

Where did I say his CV was **** though?

There's a woman in my office and her CV is amazing, she's a lazy **** and I not very good at her job, and she's still living off her past achievements. Bit like Rafa really?

[destinydude]

Our football was 'dire' only in parts in his last season here and in the 07/08 season during January when the G&H issue escalated for the first time.

Other than we did not go through a phase of bad/dire performances ever

[dom9]

Here we go again and again and again

[Gibbo]

It’s obvious that I was going to touch a nerve with some of you, and I expected a couple of replies similar to yours.

But our football was dire at times under him, I was glad we got shot of him. But you think otherwise, so I must be wrong.

Im not trying to start a whole Rafa debate here but when you say "glad we got shot of him" do you mean at the time that we did or would you have liked him to leave earlier?

[Shaggy]

It doesn't touch a nerve, it was just a ridiculous thing to say

You don't have to like him, but his CV is there for all to see whether you like him or not.