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  • Buzzo
    Donald Buzzworth
    • Jun 2010
    • 67435

    #5551
    The start of that article is great, I'd forgotten about that.

    It really was a watershed moment. It was like watching Ben Johnson win the 100m in 4 seconds.

    The strangest moment of Saturday’s FA Cup final came in the seconds after Manchester City’s sixth goal, when the camera cut from the mob of celebrating City players to Pep Guardiola, who was slumped on the bench with his head in his hands.

    Pep looked less like a happy football coach watching his side make history and more like an anguished scientist whose prototype civil defence robot has just run amok at a trade show, slaughtering several bystanders. It looked as though he understood that the very scale of the victory had begun to devalue it, that City were now in the territory of negative marginal returns, that the reaction to this turkey shoot would go beyond appreciation and congratulation, towards accusation and perhaps even condemnation.

    And so it proved. The Cup-winning manager’s post-match press conference is usually laudatory, but Pep’s ended with a journalist asking whether he, like his predecessor Roberto Mancini, had ever received any extra payments from City’s ownership group on top of his regular salary.

    Guardiola looked about as angry as anyone has seen him since he arrived in England. “Do you know the question you’re asking me?” he hissed. “If I ever received money for another situation, right now, today? Honestly, do you think I deserve to have this type of question happen – what happened with Roberto I don’t know, the day we won the treble – if I received money from other situations? Oh my God. Are you accusing me of receiving money?”
    Modifying post.

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    • dom9
      Ant Pisser
      • Aug 2006
      • 69013

      #5552
      [ame]https://twitter.com/tariqpanja/status/1228589732734676992[/ame]
      Oh I don't know.

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      • Norbs
        Big Girl's Blouse
        • Jun 2007
        • 42643

        #5553
        Originally posted by DeanoUK
        Yes I know why you said it. Obviously I have a (conscious bias) but little Englander is extreme.

        This forum is becoming more and more toxic.
        You predicted the Pelter

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        • Exiled_red
          Paisley
          • Nov 2007
          • 55280

          #5554
          Originally posted by ChesterDave
          Surely any competition entry can have any qualification criteria, especially so in sport. Whether that is the right for an athlete, tennis/snooker/darts player or football club to enter. Nobody is denying city the right to exist as a football club - Bury still exist as a football club they have just been booted out the league. They can still operate as a football club as can Manchester City but to participate in a particular competition they just have to operate in a particular way which they have failed to do according to this ruling.

          Financial stipulations should be treated no different from league position as a qualifying criteria.
          Originally posted by Fivex
          I was thinking about this last night, banning them from entering a competition for not playing by the rules cant be a ‘restraint of trade’

          That would be the same as a player saying they’re being prevented from working, because they got a red card in the previous game.

          City can pay every single one of their employees £5m a week if they want, and they can become the Harlem Globetrotters touring the world for exhibition games. Doesn’t stop city from being a viable business, selling merchandise and match tickets etc. However if they want to enter the same centralised competitions as everyone else, they need to play by the agreed rules - I just can’t see any argument to say FFP is anti-business or whatever the argument is.
          I agree I just wondered where the line between football and business is, so to speak. UEFA is able to set the rules for the competition but presumably there is the ability to challenge those rules in court if they (City) believe them to be unfair or in breach of some law that they should be governed by. I don't know what those rules or laws might be.

          I guess I am imagining an analogy with a political party, they can set their own rules for membership, but someone could legally challenge them if they were not in line with the law (e.g. the party was discriminating against someone on the basis of a protected characteristic).

          Is there the possibility of a situation like this with business or trade laws?
          Last edited by Exiled_red; 15-02-20, 11:59 AM.
          The only gracious way to accept an insult is to ignore it; if you can't ignore it, top it; if you can't top it, laugh at it; if you can't laugh at it, it's probably deserved.

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          • ChesterDave
            Paisley
            • Oct 2010
            • 32224

            #5555
            Originally posted by Marvin on Bluemoon;
            A pariah is not generally a good thing to be but if you're a pariah of UEFA, Liverpool FC, Tebas, Real Madrid, Man Utd then we are no more pariahs than the Resistance and Partisans were in WW2.


            Comparing themselves to resistance fighters!

            (14032 for anyone that wants to see the full post)
            Football without Origi is nothing

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            • Exiled_red
              Paisley
              • Nov 2007
              • 55280

              #5556
              A few people seem tobe making the argument that as long as City's owners give the money to Etihad and then Etihad use that money (plus a little bit more) there is nothing wrong with that because Etihad can get their money from wherever they like and do as they please with. City should only be punished if the money never went through Etihad.
              The only gracious way to accept an insult is to ignore it; if you can't ignore it, top it; if you can't top it, laugh at it; if you can't laugh at it, it's probably deserved.

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              • Leyton388
                aka liverpooltj
                • Jul 2007
                • 26044

                #5557
                Bunch of ****ing *****.

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                • McDermotX
                  Paisley
                  • Aug 2006
                  • 35360

                  #5558
                  Anti-UEFA demonstration is today's latest from the braintrust over at BlueMoon.

                  With FFP experts invited to speak.

                  Obviously such experts frequent said forums.
                  "I will make the boys feel your support"
                  Jurgen Klopp June 2020

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                  • spud_gun
                    Paisley
                    • Jul 2006
                    • 26519

                    #5559
                    Originally posted by McDermotX
                    Anti-UEFA demonstration is today's latest from the braintrust over at BlueMoon.
                    Citeh fans have been boycotting home UEFA Champions League games for years.

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                    • Leyton388
                      aka liverpooltj
                      • Jul 2007
                      • 26044

                      #5560
                      I'm sure we can all agree that what would make this thread better is a shaggy edit of the man city official statement.

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                      • ChesterDave
                        Paisley
                        • Oct 2010
                        • 32224

                        #5561
                        Originally posted by Leyton388
                        I'm sure we can all agree that what would make this thread better is a shaggy edit of the man city official statement.
                        The suggestion on Red Cafe that it needs the Hitler Reacts video treatment was very tempting and I had the maker loaded ready to go but then realised I can't be bothered trawling through 3,500 posts to get the gems.
                        Football without Origi is nothing

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                        • Alex
                          Administrator
                          • Jul 2006
                          • 37058

                          #5562
                          Originally posted by Exiled_red
                          A few people seem tobe making the argument that as long as City's owners give the money to Etihad and then Etihad use that money (plus a little bit more) there is nothing wrong with that because Etihad can get their money from wherever they like and do as they please with. City should only be punished if the money never went through Etihad.
                          Literally money laundering.
                          *Except Michael, who died.

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                          • Catrin
                            Dalglish
                            • Jul 2007
                            • 2104

                            #5563
                            Originally posted by dizzycat
                            Don't know what the big deal is, they never win that trophy.
                            Does seem a bit like banning me from competing in Miss World.
                            Never knowingly optimistic

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                            • Bloodraven
                              Fagan
                              • Jan 2014
                              • 1756

                              #5564
                              What are the possibilities of City getting a points deduction and / or relegation by the premier league / FA?

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                              • ChesterDave
                                Paisley
                                • Oct 2010
                                • 32224

                                #5565
                                Would be hilarious but I can't see the FA piling on. Relegated to L2 is apparently the maximum penalty (not sure what conditions, just from reading other forums and social media so only saw in passing). That would effectively be a 4 year minimum ban from Europe.
                                Football without Origi is nothing

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