Manchester City

[dom9]

My gut feeling is they'll position their defence on UEFA not doing things by the letter of the law and look to get away with things on a technicality. The stuff that is out there about them and has been reported upon by publications that aren't known to sensationalise like some of the red tops for instance leads to the thinking they're guilty as hell and they probably know it.

Whether UEFA have gone about things by the book though will be another matter entirely and based on past performance I'd be surprised if they've not ****ed this in some way

They'd have been far better using this as their defence. "We ****ed up but we're behaving ourselves now". That would probably have got the ban reduced to one season.

Instead they've done the opposite. Their all in. Let's see who's bluffing.

Privileged billionaire princes probability don't do contrition very well. Not used to not getting everything they want or being sanctioned.

Yep to all of that.

[Red_Polo]

Privileged billionaire princes probability don't do contrition very well. Not used to not getting everything they want or being sanctioned.

Indeed. Remarkable how tribal association can make so many ordinary people suddenly discard all prior sense of fairness, and to embody the same entitled attitudes, relishing the idea of using untrammelled power and tainted lucre to crush those who don't bend to their will.

[BillobShaisley]

Confirmation Bias and Cognitive Dissonance. Should have that in PSE in schools!

[Red_Polo]

Confirmation Bias and Cognitive Dissonance. Should have that in PSE in schools!

Critical thinking, logical fallacies, and cognitive biases. All woefully neglected by school curricula, and those with money/power/data are exploiting the hell out of it.

[Irishnev]

For subscribers of the Athletic this is a good podcast on it

https://theathletic.com/podcast/144-the-ornstein-and-chapman-podcast/

[Phoenix07]

Critical thinking, logical fallacies, and cognitive biases. All woefully neglected by school curricula, and those with money/power/data are exploiting the hell out of it.

One of my biggest gripes in Doncaster was the number of sixth forms and post 16 education centres teaching "critical thinking skills" for a couple of hours a week to the students. It sounds good at first, until I tell you that it was for the very top performing students.

Since the changes meant that students had to stay in education until they were 18, most of the schools here have ditched it. I've become quite disillusioned in this line of work. Schools feel like they're becoming factories for smartphone addicts who don't know how to do anything without an app these days.

[McDermotX]

Pep talking about how they are big cheating *******s for the first time on Sky now.

Only he's not talking about how they are big cheating *******s at all.

[Red_Polo]

One of my biggest gripes in Doncaster was the number of sixth forms and post 16 education centres teaching "critical thinking skills" for a couple of hours a week to the students. It sounds good at first, until I tell you that it was for the very top performing students.

Since the changes meant that students had to stay in education until they were 18, most of the schools here have ditched it. I've become quite disillusioned in this line of work. Schools feel like they're becoming factories for smartphone addicts who don't know how to do anything without an app these days.

Depressing to hear. I'd hoped rather than dedicated critical thinking skills teaching for a select few, it would increasingly become embedded within teaching at all ages, abilities and subjects. Would be interested to hear from teachers on it. Might be something that is aspirational but given lack of resources, increasingly difficult to implement unless you're in a school with a catchment that has rich social capital?

[Kenneth]

Indeed. Remarkable how tribal association can make so many ordinary people suddenly discard all prior sense of fairness, and to embody the same entitled attitudes, relishing the idea of using untrammelled power and tainted lucre to crush those who don't bend to their will.

[Chris]

There’s about 25k max there tonight What a show of support after their “traumatic” week.

[ChesterDave]

From ****ter

https://mobile.twitter.com/JoshDownie5/status/1230219701231521805/photo/1

[Exiled_red]

Surely the crowd is so low because they are taking a stand against UEFA and boycotting the game.



And alot of their fans have great foresight because they have been boycotting for years

[Fivex]

They announced the attendance yet then?

[ChesterDave]

It's low because it's a rearranged fixture. It's tough and expensive for season ticket holders in Manchester to travel to Manchester at 10 days notice

[Charly]

They announced the attendance yet then?

nope