Manchester City

[Exiled_red]

I wonder how long until we see a BBC Football headline like 'Man City expelled to the 3rd division'. 2 years? 3 years?

Never happening, at most they would go down one division

[Fivex]

I'd prefer to see them barred from qualification to European competition for the next 10 years. Let them stay in the division, but irrespective of where they finish in the league, they don't get to play in Europe.

[Fosterbloke]

I'd prefer to see them barred from qualification to European competition for the next 10 years. Let them stay in the division, but irrespective of where they finish in the league, they don't get to play in Europe.

And still potentially celebrate a league win? No **** that. They should be ousted and made an example of.

[labourRed]

I think dropping them down the leagues is possible, but possibly just to the championship, not sure how they have jurisdiction to do any worse than that.

Also, radio silence from Gary Neville. Absolutely certain he is in their pocket.

[Scratch]

Also, radio silence from Gary Neville. Absolutely certain he is in their pocket.

Or just still lives in Manchester, has businesses in Manchester and is loathe to upset the blue half of the city for fear of spiteful retribution...don't **** where you eat and all that?

[Mr Pink]

But it’s absolutely mind-boggling. Liverpool have been scandalously cheated out of

Ending a 24 year wait with the PL 2013/14
PL and CL double winners 2018/19
Record PL points winners 2019/20
PL, FA, LC domestic treble winner 2021/22

And the league cup in 2016!

Not to mention that if they weren’t there last year, we would have walked the league and had enough juice left in the tank, to go and do the quadruple!

[Doc_Piptorious]

Or just still lives in Manchester, has businesses in Manchester and is loathe to upset the blue half of the city for fear of spiteful retribution...don't **** where you eat and all that?

More likely he is just a thick hypocrite.

[Mr Pink]

I suspect that there will be something that will stop clubs from suing them as it would be a free for all, at the moment it's £2.2m per position in the table per season, So potentially all the teams in the league could sue for that.

They took CL places from teams who would have finished 4th were it not for their cheating. As champions they get a bigger slice of the English CL (TV??) revenue pot which is split 40:30:20:10 to teams finishing 1st, 2nd, 3rd and 4th respectively so there is that too which is a clear financial loss.

Those are just direct prize money that clubs would have received, clubs also argue that as PL champions or a team in the CL they could have got better sponsorship deals etc.

We should sue them for reputation damage!! They shouldn’t have been in the CL in 2018, and we would have avoided that bad PR, with that whole busgate thing.

[Mark79]

The PL have the power to expel a team.

After that I don’t think there’s anything that says they have to be admitted to the next highest league in the pyramid.

[Fivex]

And still potentially celebrate a league win? No **** that. They should be ousted and made an example of.

1 season in the championship won’t do anything to them in the grand scheme of things. But 10 years without European football would indirectly decimate their playing squad.

[Kenneth]

Seems a bit convoluted. I’m more direct and favour direct decimation of their playing squad.

[fah-q]

Chopping every tenth players head off?

[Kenneth]

We’re not in Roman times now. Your archaic definitions mean nothing to me.

[Exiled_red]

Personally I think they would have to strip them of titles, otherwise they would have prospered from their cheating.

There needs to be thought given to the appropriate FFP penalties, for me this would include but not be limited to them having however much they have gained financially by cheating FFP deducted from what they are allowed to lose/the cash injection the owners are allowed to put in over a similar period to what they were cheating for as well as any other fines and the banning of the use of funds from and dodgy sponsors. This means that if for arguements sake they cheated FFP by £500m over say 10 years they have a £50m FFP liability every year for the next 10 years, I believe that the PL clubs are allowed to make a loss of £105m over a 3 year period, that would mean (based on these numbers) that to make a £45m profit in that time for FFP reasons, that profit would then be taken off them as a fine. If they have to sell players to meet their wage bill or whatever tough **** you reap what you sow.

For me that would be the minimum punishment, I would also consider kicking them out of the league (relegation) or at the very least a significant points deduction, and other things, such as a significant fine and paying other clubs who were out of pocket because of their actions (these would also fall within their FFP budget)

[BootRoom]

I don’t want to watch, it’ll make me too angry

It’s mad, we already knew about all of this, because of Der Spiegel, the UEFA investigation and the CAS hearing. And because it was just all so blatant.

But it’s like we just accepted it as part of what we’re up against, because what else could we do?

But it’s absolutely mind-boggling. Liverpool have been scandalously cheated out of

Ending a 24 year wait with the PL 2013/14
PL and CL double winners 2018/19
Record PL points winners 2019/20
PL, FA, LC domestic treble winner 2021/22

This is a bit too simplistic; you can't go back in time and change major events and then expect everything that happened subsequently to still happen. For instance, if we would had won the title with Brendan Rogers, would Klopp have even be appointed Manager? We'd have a completely different history.