Ferguson Ends BBC Ban

[Vermilion]

Rafa's "rant" is looking even nore factual now.

I'm a bit miffed really, that nothing DBF has said of late has been labelled a 'rant', because it clearly was, especially the emotionally charged 'rant' at the Swansea defender.

But no, most were all....It's mind games...taking the limelight off a bad performance, blah blah'.

No! It Was NOT! It was a rant, with no thought of limelight removal, he was pissed off...and he ranted on saying things that were quite frankly ridiculous!

Rant!

edit: tell the world.

[Muddled]

He [Pardew] forgets the help I gave him by the way.

Like what? Pardew helped him out by giving him £2m for Gabriel Obertan.

[Fivex]

Like what? Pardew helped him out by giving him £2m for Gabriel Obertan.

I think he's on about the time when he allowed Newcastle to hire him.

[Neil Young]

Sir Alex Ferguson says Alan Pardew's criticism is hypocritical

Manchester United manager Sir Alex Ferguson has accused Alan Pardew of hypocrisy after the Newcastle manager criticised his behaviour on Boxing Day.

Pardew said the Football Association should have punished Ferguson for confronting officials during Manchester United's 4-3 win at Old Trafford.

"Alan Pardew is the worst for haranguing referees. His whole staff [do it] every game," Ferguson said.

Pardew served a two-match ban for pushing a match official in August.

Ferguson confronted referee Mike Dean, his assistant Jake Collin and the fourth official Neil Swarbrick at the start of the second half of the Premier League game at Old Trafford to protest over Newcastle's second goal.

Dean had ruled that Papiss Cisse was not interfering with play when Jonny Evans put through his own goal after 28 minutes, even though the Senegal international was in an offside position when Danny Simpson hit the initial shot.

Pardew was unhappy that the United manager, 70, avoided punishment over the confrontation because Dean did not mention the incident in his match report.

"I think Mike Dean might feel slightly disappointed he didn't do something about it," Pardew said after the game.

"I think the pressure that was on him was tough for a referee to take. I think there were a lot of things the FA could look at. But it seems they are looking at none."

Pardew was fined £20,000 and given a two-match touchline ban by the FA for pushing fourth official Peter Kirkup during Newcastle's 2-1 win over Tottenham on 18 August.

The Newcastle manager immediately apologised, talking of his shame at the "comical" incident, but Ferguson says Pardew now has no right to criticise the behaviour of others.

"I wasn't abusive of the referee - some managers push the linesman and make a joke of it," said the Scot.

"I'm not making a joke of it. I think [the goal] should've been disallowed, I really do. [Pardew] shoves the referee and makes a joke of it, and he's got the cheek to criticise - it's unbelievable.

"He forgets the help I gave him by the way.

"The press have had a field day out of it. They have addressed every possible avenue. The only one they have left out is Barack Obama. He is too busy.

"That is unfortunate. I carry that because I am the manager of the most famous club in the world. I am not like Newcastle, a wee club in the north east."

Ferguson said that he felt it was legitimate for him to question the decision of Dean to allow the goal.

"I called him over and said there was body contact," he said.

"The rule book says if your opponent is interfering with the defender then he's offside. The interpretation from Mike Dean was that he wasn't interfering, but I think he was."
Ferguson said that he remained calm during the conversation, and that he was happy with the way Dean dealt with the incident.

"I think Mike Dean handled it well. He is an experienced referee - mature. There was no ranting and raving from me," he said,

"I was demonstrative but I'm always demonstrative. I'm an emotional guy."
TV cameras recorded the discussion between Ferguson and Dean as the teams came out for the second half, and Arsenal manager Arsene Wenger said that it did not set a good example to those watching.

"The message it sends out when you look at the pictures is not to behave like that," he said.

Asked at a news conference whether he was surprised the referee did not mention the incident in his match report, Wenger said: "Yes, but you should ask this question to Mike Dean."

Wenger received an apology from referees' chief Keith Hackett after Dean sent him off for kicking a water bottle in a game at Old Trafford that Arsenal lost 2-1 in 2009.

http://www.est1892.co.uk/forums/show...83#post2529583

This bit is interesting:

I called him over...

Like a lackey perhaps.

[Neil Young]

Another twist:

Sir Alex Ferguson accuses Sir Alex Ferguson of being hypocritical

Manchester United manager Sir Alex Ferguson has sensationally accused himself of hypocrisy in a hastily-arranged press conference on Friday evening.

"I said Alan Pardew is the worst for haranguing referees but I realised afterwards that he isn't," Ferguson said.

"In fact I'm the worst offender by a long way," the puce-faced septuagenarian admitted.

Ferguson confronted himself over the incident following a press conference this morning where he had made the typically hypocritical claims.

"I came out of the press conference feeling slightly disappointed with myself. I knew something was wrong even though, as usual, none of the journalists there said anything to contradict what was an obvious piece of bull****."

Ferguson talked of his complete lack of shame at being so hypocritical.

"I just can't help myself. One moment I'm sitting there chewing a wasp and the next I lose it like an overtired toddler. All the toys come out of the pram and then I see everyone within range is covered in my spittle."

"Fortunately though I'm a borderline personality with a total inability to see things as they really are. If it wasn't for that I'd never manage to get through the day."

"The press have had a field day out of it. They have addressed every possible avenue. I'm just glad the FA haven't charged me with anything because they know they better than to cross me."

"That is not just fortunate. I carry that advantage because I am the manager of the most famous club in the world. I am not like Newcastle, a wee club in the north east. I am a god. And should any mortal dare to challenge me, I will crush them like the insect they are, for I am Baal, I am Shiva, I am Vader. I lecture Harvard on my methods and I will not be denied."

News just in: Furious Ferguson fines himself for his anti-Ferguson tirade

[baitman]

[Leyton388]

I'd love to see an Offical have some ****ing balls, get in his face and send the bacon faced **** too the stands and expose just how much of a prick he is.

It's a ****ing insult that he has the title "Sir" Nothing could be further from the truth IMO.

The is only 1 man in football that was deserving of his title of Sir and that was Sir bobby.

For everything bacon face has won he is nothing compared to that great man.

[baitman]

I'd love to see an Offical have some ****ing balls, get in his face and send the bacon faced **** too the stands and expose just how much of a prick he is.

It's a ****ing insult that he has the title "Sir" Nothing could be further from the truth IMO.

The is only 1 man in football that was deserving of his title of Sir and that was Sir bobby.

For everything bacon face has won he is nothing compared to that great man.

[Shaggy]

Another twist:

[Liverpel]

Another twist:

[Lee]

Another twist:

[dww]

I don't agree with Herbert about refs. Far too often nowadays do big games seem to be decided by the officials rather than the actual football, yet they remain utterly unaccountable to the general supporters whose experience they commonly ruin. Why did we not see the ref or linesman in the Everton game interviewed afterwards? Why do they not have to explain or apologise when they get something fundamentally wrong? Why should refs get to be entirely immune from any sort of criticism when it is their wrong decisions that decide competitions and possibly even people's jobs?

I think there is something in the unaccountability but at the same time more generally I think Herbert is right on this. No one is saying referees don't make mistakes or that they have an impact on results but I suspect that people are prone to over emphasize these occasions against the wait of the how many decisions they get right.

I really don't think that post match comments are the right place for well balanced criticism to come out. All to often we debate marginal calls, often without full knowledge of the pertinent rules.

I think the FA should make an effort to have proper referee analysis put in the public domain somewhere. Perhaps by encouraging TV shows with experts (i.e. people who know the rules not just people who have played the game) to debate decisions or through creative use of their website. In general they would do well to communicate more transparently.

I also think that they would do well to have an independent body review manager behaviour. Set up clear rules and ensure that complaints are dealt with fairly. Ferguson clearly bullys officials and other managers, they should be able to stop that.

Obviously Fergie is a c*nt, and was bang out of order yesterday, but what's new there? Sure, people should be proportionate and respectful, but why should the utterly incompetent boys club at the FA get to determine who can and can't say what (within reason) anyway? Perhaps if the officials, and those who run the game, were more accountable, not to other managers but to the public, then they would get more respect for the admittedly difficult jobs they do,

I'm not sure that supporters would do a great job of judging these things to be honest. They should have a better feeling that the process of review is fair but supporters are far too tribal to really ever be reasonable about individual decisions IMO.

[dww]

Just to add to what I said before - I think the reason it appears that referees have a bigger influence now is the increase in goals has coincided with more chances (rather than better finishing relative to keeping). This means that they have more 'vital' decisions to make, even if they are as good or better at decision making than in the past they might get a higher number of contentious decisions.

[Frenchie]

all the more reason for technology and instant replay...

[Chazza]

Manchester United manager Sir Alex Ferguson says he is not planning to quit Old Trafford anytime soon.

Despite turning 71 on New Year's Eve, and having celebrated 26 years as manager of Manchester United during the autumn, Ferguson expects to remain in the hot seat for a few seasons yet.

The Scot also said that it is impossible to predict who will be his likely successor and whether they would be available to replace him when he finally does decide to call it a day.

With regards to vacating the manager's role with the current Premier League leaders, he told the Abu Dhabi Sports channel: "I'm hoping to stay on for a bit of time."

And as for United's next manager - a role for which Pep Guardiola, Jose Mourinho and David Moyes are supposedly in the frame - he went on: "Over the years, names have been bandied about but football is such a precarious industry.

"You could be talking about one of the potentially exciting young managers in the game but is he going to be here in two or three years' time? The sack race is horrendous.

"Sometimes a manager can only survive four games if he doesn't win a match.

"Top managers will always been in demand but nobody knows where they are going to be in two or three years' time."

http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11667/8375369/Sir-Alex-Ferguson-is-not-planning-to-quit-Manchester-United-anytime-soon