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    Ross Barkley's a better player when he plays for Everton than for England. Then, it's not surprising is it.
    Are we winning?

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      I watched the game in Madrid and they ****ing love Martinez over here. Reckon he could be in the frame for the athletico job if simeone ends up at Monaco, psg etc next year

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        Moysie has been holding them back for years. Now he can do the same at the scum

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          Originally posted by Norbs View Post
          Moysie has been holding them back for years. Now he can do the same at the scum
          But he's a winner..?!?!?!

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            Originally posted by The Reverend View Post
            I watched the game in Madrid and they ****ing love Martinez over here. Reckon he could be in the frame for the athletico job if simeone ends up at Monaco, psg etc next year


            Do you live over there mate?
            Hello mert.

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              Originally posted by Fivex View Post
              Do you live over there mate?
              Yep, I was in Portugal for ten years but moved over here permanently in the summer. Miles more fun than being in Lisbon

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                Nice but I prefer my stupendous views of ICI and Shell.
                Hello mert.

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                  I have similar views but nicer weather probably

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                    Martinez - he's looking good but let's see what happens with their first bad patch. Plus their board won't take much longer to **** something up again.
                    Hello mert.

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                      good side playing organised football

                      Moyes had them sorted as solid hard working unit - many thought (hoped ) that martinez would **** all that up trying to make them more creative but to be fair though he's done well so far.

                      however - like us, they lack any real depth imo

                      they have a very good starting XI. a few decent squad players, but other than that ****e.

                      one thing they've seemed to have done well with is they never seem to have many injuries - maybe they do and just don't notice it, but they more or less seem to have the same starting XI every week.

                      And take Lukaku out of it and they'd be ****ed.

                      more so than us with Suarez - cause and this is the big difference between us and them...our higher expectation and pressure on players - i'll tell you now - our 'squad' players, Aspas/Alberto etc would all be getting regularly game time there.
                      i own everton fans on the internet....that's what i do

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                        They might to alright this season but surely Baines will leave eventually and Chelsea will take Lukaku back. Any others get picked off or injured and he'll need to dip into the transfer market.

                        When Martinez has to replace players is when we will see how well he can do.
                        Football without Origi is nothing

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                          Originally posted by PTP View Post
                          good side playing organised football

                          Moyes had them sorted as solid hard working unit - many thought (hoped ) that martinez would **** all that up trying to make them more creative but to be fair though he's done well so far.

                          however - like us, they lack any real depth imo

                          they have a very good starting XI. a few decent squad players, but other than that ****e.

                          one thing they've seemed to have done well with is they never seem to have many injuries - maybe they do and just don't notice it, but they more or less seem to have the same starting XI every week.

                          And take Lukaku out of it and they'd be ****ed.

                          more so than us with Suarez - cause and this is the big difference between us and them...our higher expectation and pressure on players - i'll tell you know - our 'squad' players, Aspas/Alberto etc would all be getting regularly game time there.

                          i reckon that sometimes certain players struggle with the level of expectations. whether they lack the man strength or maybe its down to how the expectation is piled up by the coaches/management. who knows.

                          this is why getting these bench warmers out and playing regularly [without compromising our first team] would be of benefit. we find out if they can cut it, and then encourage them to come back more hungry for their chance.
                          removing all the weak links makes us stronger

                          too many gutless players, no beef or desire. pussies everywhere... sack them all.

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                            They've been very good this season, Martinez has them playing some very nice football. Like us though, they only need an injury to one or two of their key players and they could be in some trouble.

                            JURGEN KLOPP - LIVERPOOL MANAGER

                            YNWA

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                              i know they've looked good - and Barry/McCarthy have done well and Barclay looks like he could become a star

                              but i do believe and have argued with them that if they had Henderson they'd be ****ing raving about him and he'd be their main man (maybe lukaku aside)
                              i own everton fans on the internet....that's what i do

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                                Martinez is the first Everton manager thet I don't dislike, for now!!

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