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    Originally posted by Gibbo View Post
    'Cos teams have figured them out and there's no plan b?

    There's a plan A?
    Football without Origi is nothing

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      Pass
      The times they are a changin'.

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        Seriously though, I just think Martinez is terrible nad has managed to coach defensive ineptitude into them. They were never that hot going forward but now they can't defend
        Football without Origi is nothing

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          martinez is rodgers-lite
          removing all the weak links makes us stronger

          too many gutless players, no beef or desire. pussies everywhere... sack them all.

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            Originally posted by ChesterDave View Post
            Seriously though, I just think Martinez is terrible nad has managed to coach defensive ineptitude into them. They were never that hot going forward but now they can't defend
            Last year they had Moyes defensive discipline combined with Martinez's attacking coaching. Looks like the defensive discipline instilled by Moyes is now wearing out.

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              McCarthy is a huge miss.

              13 games without him and just the 1 win.

              He seems to have a Lucas type impact for them.

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                Originally posted by Chazza View Post
                McCarthy is a huge miss.

                13 games without him and just the 1 win.

                He seems to have a Lucas type impact for them.
                hes evertons arsenals dog.
                removing all the weak links makes us stronger

                too many gutless players, no beef or desire. pussies everywhere... sack them all.

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                  Next set of fixtures;

                  Palace (away)
                  Liverpool (home)
                  Chelsea (away)
                  Leicester (home)
                  Arsenal (away)
                  Stoke (away)

                  Wonder if we could deal the final blow to Martinez?
                  Vive la France

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                    Originally posted by Robbie-9-Fowler View Post
                    Next set of fixtures;

                    Palace (away)
                    Liverpool (home)
                    Chelsea (away)
                    Leicester (home)
                    Arsenal (away)
                    Stoke (away)

                    Wonder if we could deal the final blow to Martinez?
                    Palace (away) lose
                    Liverpool (home) lose
                    Chelsea (away) lose
                    Leicester (home) win
                    Arsenal (away) lose
                    Stoke (away) lose

                    removing all the weak links makes us stronger

                    too many gutless players, no beef or desire. pussies everywhere... sack them all.

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                      Everton are ****ing ****.
                      Klopp on LFC vs MUFC (March 9th 2016) - "This is why I love football. This is why we watched it when we were young. I can still not have enough of it."


                      Always, keep your face to the sun, and shadows will fall behind you.

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                        Originally posted by Slinky Skills View Post
                        Everton are ****ing ****.

                        hence the term, 'is that some everton on your finger'


                        removing all the weak links makes us stronger

                        too many gutless players, no beef or desire. pussies everywhere... sack them all.

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                          Bunch of ass wipes have found there natural level. Enjoy bitches.
                          "Its not about the long ball or the short ball, its about the right ball." Bob Paisley

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                            I do remember not so long back that people were criticising FSG for getting the wrong ex Swansea manager. Those people are pretty quiet right about now. But I will cut Martinez some slack.

                            I think their sufferings are down to what ours were. A failure to cope with European football. Rotation of the squad is essential but if you can't get it right it's disastrous.

                            You watch them in Europe and they still look a very good team. But the motivation for the league games wasn't there. And once that motivation has been lost, it's very difficult to get back.

                            Martinez has to do what Rodgers did & reinvent a way of playing if he wants them to sort themselves out. I doubt they'll go down, but if they have a tough run, and bad results would knock confidence even further.

                            But just as our players went within themselves it's the same at Everton. I almost think they'd be best off getting top dollar for players whilst they still can and bringing fresh blood into the squad.
                            Forwards.......

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                              I was delighted FSG picked Rodgers over Martinez. I was gutted when the photograph of Henry and Martinez strolling down Miami with coffees in hand was published.

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                                **** them
                                Oh I say his vision there was lovely

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