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    Originally posted by kris90210 View Post
    I thought Wales played extremely well last night. When you look at the two teams, we're miles behind England. We put in an excellent performance and on balance deserved a draw in my opinion.

    Good start from Speed.
    2 words - Aaron Ramsey. Brilliant for his age & will only get better imo...
    Thanks for the memories Rafa - YNWA!

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      Before the game people were talking 4 or 5 goals for England, Rooney could beat wales on his own etc etc.

      Typical day after deflation has set in now it seems, as usual.

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        Originally posted by Shaggy View Post
        Yes.

        He's gone very grey very quickly.
        A lot of them dye their hair so guess he no longer has the bottle
        Substance > Style

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          Originally posted by Vermilion View Post
          Before the game people were talking 4 or 5 goals for England, Rooney could beat wales on his own etc etc.

          Typical day after deflation has set in now it seems, as usual.
          It was a typical 'do just enough' thing. If england had needed to win by 3, they would've probably done it.

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            Few pics from yesterday. Young really finds Downing attractive















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                Originally posted by Mostar View Post
                I love the fact that, even though it's just water or an energy drink (hopefully), in light of what's been said lately, a picture of Carroll stood next to Capello, simply has to involve Carroll taking a swig of drink

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                  Crikey, that's a bit close to the bone. (No pun intended).

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                    Did you not notice when they embraced after the goal they had a bit of a nose clash and both moved their heads the same way ...it was very awkward.
                    Thanks very much for being ‘This Mornings’ Farmer’

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                      Nah, i wasnt watching that closely

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                        Haha yeah I spotted that too

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                          Originally posted by Craig_H View Post
                          It was a typical 'do just enough' thing. If england had needed to win by 3, they would've probably done it.
                          That's quite an arrogant position. You're possibly right, but I don't think anything should be taken away from the Welsh performance. England would certainly have wanted a second before going into cruise control - they annihilated us at Cardiff and were 0-2 up in about 5 mins. This was a totally different scenario, and it feels like we're making progress under Speed.

                          If only we had a goal scoring centre forward and a dominant centre back...! I still don't think we'd do that well, but we'd compete for qualification at least.

                          It's tough being a Wales fan
                          K ris90210

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                            I heard on the radio Earnshaw has been getting stick for "missing a sitter". It was a great chance obviously and one you'd normally expect him or any other striker to score but it looked like a great save to me so I don't think he can really be blamed.
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                            Suppose you have a physicist and a sociologist standing at the side of a field, observing a set of events unfolding on the field. The physicist does [describes] it using the terminology of mass and velocity and frequency of radiation and the rest. And the sociologist does it by describing it as a rugby match.



                            May the Lord bless this post.

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                              Originally posted by kris90210 View Post
                              That's quite an arrogant position. You're possibly right, but I don't think anything should be taken away from the Welsh performance. England would certainly have wanted a second before going into cruise control - they annihilated us at Cardiff and were 0-2 up in about 5 mins. This was a totally different scenario, and it feels like we're making progress under Speed.

                              If only we had a goal scoring centre forward and a dominant centre back...! I still don't think we'd do that well, but we'd compete for qualification at least.

                              It's tough being a Wales fan
                              It's not 'arrogant' really, i'm not remotely an england fan, so it's not like i'm speaking from a "We could beat you by 3 if we wanted" point of view I couldnt care less about the england team - but generally (and especially towards the latter stages of a tie/qualification campaign) teams do tend to slip into the 'do just enough' mindset - and i think that sums up England last night.

                              They played without real urgency or tempo, because having got the goal, the job was done - of course, if Earnshaw could hit a barn door, he would've grabbed a point for Wales and i would've laughed my arse off at England

                              Wales put in a good performance - but saying england could've won by more if they'd needed to, isnt taking away from Wales - a team can play well, and yet still be on a hiding to nothing if, as was the case, there is a [graciousgooner]big gap[/graciousgooner] in quality/ability between the sides.

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                                Originally posted by Craig_H View Post
                                It's not 'arrogant' really, i'm not remotely an england fan, so it's not like i'm speaking from a "We could beat you by 3 if we wanted" point of view I couldnt care less about the england team - but generally (and especially towards the latter stages of a tie/qualification campaign) teams do tend to slip into the 'do just enough' mindset - and i think that sums up England last night.

                                They played without real urgency or tempo, because having got the goal, the job was done - of course, if Earnshaw could hit a barn door, he would've grabbed a point for Wales and i would've laughed my arse off at England

                                Wales put in a good performance - but saying england could've won by more if they'd needed to, isnt taking away from Wales - a team can play well, and yet still be on a hiding to nothing if, as was the case, there is a [graciousgooner]big gap[/graciousgooner] in quality/ability between the sides.
                                Fair enough. I actually made a similar point to my flat mate, about how I reckon England would have stepped their game up if we'd have scored.

                                England didn't actually look that great before they scored mind you!
                                K ris90210

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