you know you have fallen far when you view Everton as your rivals 
The Old Trafford giants sit sixth, one place above the Toffees, and there would be red faces if players they allow to join the Goodison side help them qualify instead
Everton's European hopes may scupper plans to land international stars Memphis Depay and Morgan Schneiderlin in January.
Boss Ronald Koeman admitted at the weekend he wants the Manchester United pair on loan when the winter window opens.
But the Dutch manager also stated he feels his side are capable of challenging for the Europa League places.
And that could concern bosses at Old Trafford, with their manager Jose Mourinho experiencing struggles in his early months at the club.
United are currently outside the top four themselves, and will have a real fight to force their way into the Champions League reckoning.
And the last thing officials at the club want is to be left red-faced by giving their potential rivals players who could then help pip them to a European place in May.
Everton want to open talks over a possible loan deal for Dutch international forward Depay, who scored two goals for his country in their weekend win over Luxembourg, and for France midfielder Schneiderlin.
But sources within Old Trafford say the Goodison club will be met with a frosty reception, and are unlikely to persuade them on the merits of any loan deal.
The Old Trafford giants sit sixth, one place above the Toffees, and there would be red faces if players they allow to join the Goodison side help them qualify instead
Everton's European hopes may scupper plans to land international stars Memphis Depay and Morgan Schneiderlin in January.
Boss Ronald Koeman admitted at the weekend he wants the Manchester United pair on loan when the winter window opens.
But the Dutch manager also stated he feels his side are capable of challenging for the Europa League places.
And that could concern bosses at Old Trafford, with their manager Jose Mourinho experiencing struggles in his early months at the club.
United are currently outside the top four themselves, and will have a real fight to force their way into the Champions League reckoning.
And the last thing officials at the club want is to be left red-faced by giving their potential rivals players who could then help pip them to a European place in May.
Everton want to open talks over a possible loan deal for Dutch international forward Depay, who scored two goals for his country in their weekend win over Luxembourg, and for France midfielder Schneiderlin.
But sources within Old Trafford say the Goodison club will be met with a frosty reception, and are unlikely to persuade them on the merits of any loan deal.
lets just hope the rumour of Ibra definitely having to start if fit is true.!!
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