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  • Corndog
    Dalglish
    • Aug 2011
    • 2855

    #27226
    Originally posted by Irishnev
    He was never a “successful” manager but he has built great foundations when he was allowed full control. He won a few promotions with Hoffenheim and RBL and in both cases he was given free reign to oversee all aspects of building the club. He will not be given that at United and he never worked with a club of this size.

    The father of gegenpressing is total bs also - Klopp is an advocate of Sacchi’s Milan side and his counter pressing style. I have no doubt he could go well at United but it could also blow up if he isn’t given the control he likes.

    Nonetheless it will be interesting to see how it goes
    It's all relative though. In Germany that is a successful manager because usually Bayern are impossible to compete with.

    Klopp is an anomaly there in the bundesligas recent history.

    I actually think he will get a lot of control because they are lacking in any sort of football direction and need to move on with the game since Ferguson's days at the club.
    Y.N.W.A!!!!!!

    "There are two great teams on Merseyside; Liverpool and Liverpool Reserves." - Bill Shankly

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    • Buzzo
      Donald Buzzworth
      • Jun 2010
      • 67435

      #27227
      Originally posted by jono
      Harry Maguire - Art of Defending

      Harry Maguire - Art of Defending - YouTube
      So much poor defending... And thats from his 'good ' season.

      When you consider that clip doesn't even have any of his blunders from this season!
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      • Mr Pink
        Dalglish
        • Sep 2019
        • 2361

        #27228
        Originally posted by red g
        Strange one this, If he does a **** job as an interim manager are they really going to want him to stay on?

        also I think if he is going to transform the way they play etc, it will take time, and surely they can’t expect instant results this season- with the quality that they have, I expect they’ll prob get 4th place ahead of the likes of west ham/arsenal.. but I don’t expect them to be transformed into the type of team that rangnick envisions, by the end of the season.

        There could very well be a case where they are progressing to this new style of play at the pace he expects, but they finish 7th/8th (Similar to us at the end of klopp’s first year). If this was to happen, would the fans etc all stand by him? I defo don’t see them having the same patience as they had with Ole, if things don’t go smoothly. For example, say he benched Ronaldo in the CL last 16 game and they got knocked out. Could see fans turning on him.
        I don't tip

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        • Kenneth
          Pond Scum
          • May 2007
          • 65638

          #27229
          Originally posted by Buzzo
          So much poor defending... And thats from his 'good ' season.

          When you consider that clip doesn't even have any of his blunders from this season!
          There’s more here

          [ame="https://youtu.be/-P-kA_NUvOU"]Maguire FAILS AGAIN.. - YouTube[/ame]

          The time he dragged Luke Shaw to the ground to give the striker a clear shot was probably my favourite.
          Trey Nyoni: countdown to stardom- 2 years 1year 0.5 years

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          • Buzzo
            Donald Buzzworth
            • Jun 2010
            • 67435

            #27230
            Originally posted by Kenneth
            There’s more here

            Maguire FAILS AGAIN.. - YouTube

            The time he dragged Luke Shaw to the ground to give the striker a clear shot was probably my favourite.
            Hard to know what his 'plan' is there?

            The other class one is the early on clip v Chelsea, where he stumbles about, crashing into Matic but somehow holds onto the ball. He then plays a pass out of defence where you think for a second "I suppose he has done alright there' only for that pass to land straight at the feet of an onrushing Chelsea player

            He is ****e. If it was not for him being an England international it would be in the media all the time.
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            • RichC
              Meh
              • Jul 2006
              • 37415

              #27231
              Originally posted by Buzzo
              Hard to know what his 'plan' is there?

              The other class one is the early on clip v Chelsea, where he stumbles about, crashing into Matic but somehow holds onto the ball. He then plays a pass out of defence where you think for a second "I suppose he has done alright there' only for that pass to land straight at the feet of an onrushing Chelsea player

              He is ****e. If it was not for him being an England international it would be in the media all the time.
              Definitely gets the England bias, he's utterly woeful but hardly ever gets called out on it (van Der Vaart and Keane apart) it's much the same with Pickford he's Englands number 1 so much be good.

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              • Kenneth
                Pond Scum
                • May 2007
                • 65638

                #27232
                From a week or so ago:

                [ame="https://youtu.be/hPpHcPdI828"]Rafael Van Der Vaart Says Harry Maguire is Really Sh*t - YouTube[/ame]
                Last edited by Kenneth; 30-11-21, 11:53 AM.
                Trey Nyoni: countdown to stardom- 2 years 1year 0.5 years

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                • spud_gun
                  Paisley
                  • Jul 2006
                  • 26519

                  #27233
                  Why is he doing a Steve McLaren impression?

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                  • fah-q
                    Touching cloth
                    • Jul 2006
                    • 16727

                    #27234
                    I’m not sure I’ve ever seen a ****ter defender especially when you take into account he cost £80m. £80m!!!

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                    • Buzzo
                      Donald Buzzworth
                      • Jun 2010
                      • 67435

                      #27235
                      £80m buys you a lot of ****.
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                      • SB
                        3rd Best at Predicting (Last season)
                        • Mar 2007
                        • 36126

                        #27236
                        Originally posted by Buzzo
                        £80m buys you a lot of ****.
                        A great big pile of it actually
                        Me, I

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                        • BG1973
                          Dalglish
                          • Sep 2008
                          • 3237

                          #27237
                          Originally posted by destinydude
                          He was the one who signed Bobby Firm for Hoffenheim. I'm sure Klopp had a talk with him regd Bobby when he joined us
                          Do you mean how to use him?

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                          • jono
                            Fagan
                            • Dec 2006
                            • 1055

                            #27238
                            Originally posted by Buzzo
                            £80m buys you a lot of ****.
                            ........... Hence why the grass grows so green at OT.
                            "That's how I found myself on the Kop that day I had my blue-and-white scarf safely tucked away inside my coat as I listened to Liverpool songs and swayed with the masses.

                            Then City scored and I screeched and this big bloke, a Liverpool supporter, made towards me and I thought he was going to throttle me. But he just pulled my scarf from under my coat so it lay on the outside, and said: "You should always be proud of your colours, lad."

                            Lee Chapman - Arsenal and England defender

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                            • Kenneth
                              Pond Scum
                              • May 2007
                              • 65638

                              #27239
                              Hilarious that their new manager can’t get a work permit.
                              Trey Nyoni: countdown to stardom- 2 years 1year 0.5 years

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                              • Buzzo
                                Donald Buzzworth
                                • Jun 2010
                                • 67435

                                #27240
                                He is also apparently on an £8.5m bonus if he can persuade Haaland to sign

                                They just chuck money at anything.
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