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    Manchester United on Thursday night had an increased bid of £36m rejected for Marouane Fellaini and Leighton Baines as David Moyes continues to pursue his former players at Everton.

    United failed with a £28m joint offer for the Belgium midfielder and England left-back a fortnight ago, with Everton labelling a deal that valued Fellaini at £16m and Baines at £12m "derisory and insulting". The Premier League champions have returned with an improved offer but again found Everton unwilling to sell, although talks are likely to continue between Moyes and the Goodison Park chairman, Bill Kenwright, before Monday's transfer deadline. Moyes's successor as Everton manager, Roberto Martínez, said he was unaware of a renewed United bid for his players on Thursday but pointedly admitted that Kenwright will have the final say on transfers at the club.

    Fellaini had a £23.5m buyout clause in his contract that expired on 31 July and, though Martínez has said Everton will not sell for less, that clause is reactivated in January. United have now had three offers rejected for Baines and may ultimately have more success with an individual bid for Fellaini. The Everton manager has contingency plans in the event of the midfielder's departure and confirmed an inquiry has been made for James McCarthy at Wigan Athletic.

    "I've had conversations but not in a formal way," he said on the £15m-rated McCarthy. Gareth Barry is another midfield target providing a compromise can be reached with Manchester City over his £120,000-a-week wages.

    Despite his stance that Everton do not want to sell Baines or Fellaini, Martínez said the club must be "prepared for anything" before Monday's transfer deadline and made the significant admission that negotiations will be left to Kenwright and United. "I am not aware of it," he said of an improved United bid. "I have told the chairman I don't want to know anything that's going on, I only want to know the final news if there is anything.

    "I have had enough of 'he said this, he said that'. This is a really sensitive situation because you're talking of a chairman and previous manager [Moyes] who had a relationship over 11 years. A lot of things have been said in public and I don't want to be part of that. I'm out of it. But I have never had any instruction that anything has changed."

    Martínez reiterated that the England international Baines had not asked to be allowed to rejoin Moyes at Old Trafford. "No, no," he said. "But whatever the players say in a different situation or environment could change. All I can tell you is that Leighton is an Evertonian and very thankful for the opportunity Everton gave him. And if he has a club like Manchester United interested in him, it's a football compliment and we will take it like that. Then if things are not right, they are not right. Sometimes the club needs to be respected in that way."

    Neither Fellaini nor Baines have submitted a transfer request or stated a desire to leave Everton so far but, should they be denied a move to United, Martínez insists he is prepared for the consequence of two potentially frustrated players. "That's the nature of it, and not just an Everton situation," said the manager.

    "It's an interesting debate. Do clubs have to keep hold of players in bad moments of form or when they get injuries, and then let them go when they do well? Every time you have a good player do you have to expect to lose them because they think the grass is always greener elsewhere? It can't work like that. You have to be respectful to the club who has given you the opportunity, the club who has made the previous investment. Things need to be right for everyone.

    "The competition would die otherwise because Real Madrid and Barcelona would always have the best players, the ones in form. You need to be realistic with football in general. Of course, players will always like that next challenge and to go to play Champions League football and win trophies. But there are great stories about that. Michael Owen leaves Liverpool to go to Real Madrid to win trophies and Liverpool win the Champions League. In football nothing is guaranteed. Clubs need to be strong – and be allowed to be stronger than the players."

    That rug really tied the room together.

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      Moyes is an absolute ****, if he wanted screech that badly just pay the release clause when you could instead of waiting as long as you could and end up paying more. Goggle eyed ****wit
      Kurtangled in the McFadden thread 16/01/08

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        Originally posted by john316 View Post
        They'd be better off ditching Kagawa and put their cash into Ozil and Fellaini overrated as he is. Would improve their starting XI vastly compared to just replacing a very good LB for a better LB.
        Good idea. Kagawa must be worth at least £1bn now what with playing for Scum & being Japanese.
        3rd place. Worst champions ever.

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          The Manchester Evening News reports that Manchester United are poised to bid £40m for Everton duo Marouane Fellaini and Leighton Baines.

          Everton have turned down a couple of offers for the pair but the Old Trafford club believe their latest offer, which comes ahead of Monday's transfer deadline day, will force Everton to concede defeat.

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            £40m is absolutely obscene. I thought £28m was over the top and couldn't see why there was such an outcry about that bid. Signing those two gets the Mancs nowhere close to being a top Champions League contender.

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              David ‏@davidjaca 7m
              Ander Herrera bid from #MUFC now confirmed by Athletic Bilbao. €30m has been rejected.

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                €36m buyout apparently.

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                  Originally posted by Chazza View Post
                  €36m buyout apparently.
                  We've been through this before. Those buyout clauses only apply to other Spanish teams

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                    Originally posted by Pablo1981 View Post
                    We've been through this before. Those buyout clauses only apply to other Spanish teams
                    David @davidjaca
                    Ander's clause is €36m and activating that only way #MUFC will sign him. Athletic won't negotiate. It goes up to €40m from next season.

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                      It's mandatory for a player to have a release clause in their contract in Spain. However, those release clauses only normally apply to other clubs from La Liga. That lad is normally fairly knowledgeable on Spanish footy though so maybe that's not accurate, but it's certainly what I was led to believe.

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                        I never used to pay much attention to Golum, has he alway been so ****ing rude to reporters? Comes across as a right snidey prick. Well suited to the scum job

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                          Originally posted by Norbs View Post
                          I never used to pay much attention to Golum, has he alway been so ****ing rude to reporters? Comes across as a right snidey prick. Well suited to the scum job
                          I've just been thinking same..think he used to be a bit snidey occasionally,but seems to me to be trying to be fergie mk.2 now...****ing wannabe,hope he gets run of **** results, then he'll soon change his tune with media,the clown

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                            Originally posted by certifiable View Post
                            I've just been thinking same..think he used to be a bit snidey occasionally,but seems to me to be trying to be fergie mk.2 now...****ing wannabe,hope he gets run of **** results, then he'll soon change his tune with media,the clown
                            Contrast that to Brendan's press conference which they've just shown some of. He's basically said the same but with a smile and has the reporters laughing along with him. I'm so glad we have him at the helm, he's a gentleman

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                              He's always been a vile, horrible, whiny prick. Storming out of PC's or just giving one word answers the whole time. He's a massive bellend. God, I hope we **** this beaut and his **** team on Sunday.

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                                Manchester United prepare £40m double swoop for Bilbao's Ander Herrera and Roma's Daniele De Rossi

                                Manchester United are expected to trigger a €36 million (£30.7 million) release clause in Ander Herrera’s Athletic Bilbao contract after having a €30 million bid rejected for the playmaker identified by David Moyes as an alternative to Cesc Fabregas.

                                Manchester United prepare £40m double swoop for Bilbao's Ander Herrera and Roma's Daniele De Rossi

                                By Mark Ogden10:30PM BST 30 Aug 2013

                                After seeing two bids for Fabregas rejected by Barcelona, following an aborted move for Spain Under-21 captain Thiago Alcantara earlier this summer, Moyes is now attempting to add three midfielders to his squad before Monday’s 11pm transfer deadline.

                                The United manager, having won his battle to keep Wayne Rooney at the club in the wake of two substantial offers from Chelsea, has stepped up his pursuit of reinforcements by also lodging a €12 million offer for Roma captain Daniele De Rossi after testing Everton’s resolve with a £38 million combined bid for Marouane Fellaini and England left back Leighton Baines on Thursday.

                                Bilbao, Roma and Everton have all rejected United’s advances this week, but there is a confidence within Old Trafford that deals will be done before Monday evening.

                                However, despite Herrera’s release clause, Bilbao president Josu Urrutia has insisted that the Basque club, one of the few in Spain in strong financial health, are under no pressure to sell, even if United meet the 24-year-old’s valuation.

                                “Our club is different, in that it is based on feeling,” Urrutia said. “Our objective is not to make money. We received the offer last night, and we communicated [to the club in question] that we do not negotiate for our players. If a player is to leave, first he has to inform us that he wants to go and then his release clause has to be met.”

                                Herrera, a former Spain Under-21 international, has been on United’s radar for almost two years, with the club’s scouting department intensifying their monitoring of the player following his contribution to Bilbao’s 5-3 aggregate victory over Sir Alex Ferguson’s team in the Europa League in March 2012.

                                Regarded as a box-to-box playmaker, Moyes views Herrera as offering the qualities which he had hoped Fabregas would bring to Old Trafford, prior to Barcelona’s refusal to sell a player who had offered encouragement to United that he would be prepared to leave the Nou Camp.

                                With fewer than 72 hours remaining in the transfer window, however, United are ready to return with an offer which would trigger Herrera’s clause.

                                Moyes has so far added only Uruguayan youngster Guillermo Varela to his squad since succeeding Ferguson at the end of last season. But while Everton continue to resist United’s efforts to sign Fellaini and Baines, Moyes is determined to act on other fronts while a further move for the Goodison pair is considered.

                                United’s move for De Rossi, a long-term target of Manchester City during Roberto Mancini’s reign as manager, is likely to prove the most difficult to pull off due to the Italian’s reservations about leaving his hometown club.

                                Although the 30-year-old was keen to leave Roma at the end of last season, recent talks with manager Rudi Garcia have prompted a change of heart and, despite the club’s readiness to sell at the right price, De Rossi has told friends that he is prepared to see out the remaining four years of his contract.

                                Sources in Italy, however, have claimed that senior figures at United have canvassed Fabio Capello for his opinion on De Rossi, with the former England and Roma coach praising the defensive midfielder’s attributes.

                                Moyes, meanwhile, believes a line has now been drawn under Rooney’s summer stand-off with the club in the wake of the player’s refusal to submit a transfer request in an attempt to force a move to Chelsea.

                                The 27-year-old is poised to face Liverpool on Sunday, aiming to score his first goal at Anfield since January 2005, and Moyes claims that Rooney’s training performances have convinced him that the player is once again fully focused on his United commitments.

                                “When we came back [this summer], he wasn’t a bad lad,” Moyes said. “He was getting on with his work and, mentally, I felt he was in a pretty good place. I saw him training every day and thought he was getting himself in a good condition and he really is.

                                “For all the stuff that was supposed to have happened, that was supposed to have been, I’ve never had a minute’s problem with him.

                                “I think the [defining] factor was Manchester United saying they weren’t going to sell him. I think when he realised that, he knuckled down. Sometimes a little bit of a change can change people and hopefully Wayne is going to try to get back to the way we know everybody knows he can play.

                                “I’m really keen on getting him focused now on the goals, getting him on the goal-sheet and that will help him as well. I do think there is a situation where Wayne could go on to emulate some of the greats at Manchester United with the goals he can score.”
                                Thanks very much for being ‘This Mornings’ Farmer’

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