Manchester United

[Norbs]

Yup, hopefully we'll trounce them but besides that, they'll hopefully pick up more points and squeeze Europe. I want to see them in the Europa

There's no way on earth they are better than either Spurs or Everton. Results only go to prove that theory too. I hope you can cope with the disappointment of not seeing them in any European competition next season

[wavydavy]

I think their real problem is that the owners really don't give a **** where they are in the league all they're arsed about is that the club generate an income big enough to service debt and pay dividends etc. And they'll always be able to do that. We had similar issues with the other two.

[Chris]

Hopefully they dont get a Europa place, still extra cash from gate receipts and from next season onwards the winners get a CL place.

[meffin]

I'd rather they get Europa, but they won't even get that.

Those extra games would be a pain in the arse, and we could then start singing about Thursday nights on channel 5.

[BubbaZanetti]

Well David, here are some home truths. Even accounting for all of your reasons, you're doing a rotten job of managing Manchester United, the Premier League champions. You have been in the job for only eight months and yet have already equalled Manchester United's record number of losses in a Premier League season. Your team, which was good enough to win the title last year, is now nine points off a Champions League place, and nearer to Crystal Palace than Chelsea.

On almost every level, Moyes is failing to do his job to the required level. In the broadest terms, the remit of a football manager is to get as many players as possible playing to the height of their potential. The greatest (and that evidently includes Ferguson) take this further, actually making the team greater than the sum of its parts.

Moyes is a long way from the former, simpler goal. It could be argued that Rooney is the only one performing at a higher level than last season, and even he is far from his peak form. Almost every other player without exception is performing at a lower level than they did even ten months previously. Rafael may have last month issued the stock quote expected of a player in such a situation ("I don't know why everyone is looking at the manager. It is the players who have to do the job on the pitch"), but this falls on deaf ears. The regression of individual players may be seen as an anomaly, but when 12 or 14 professional footballers suddenly begin to struggle almost en masse, the buck stops with the manager.

http://www.football365.com/winners-losers/9159817/Winners-Losers

#MoyesIn

[Leyton388]

Turn up your speakers and sing along

"Moyesie's to ****e to mention. We're talking about Moyesie Moyesie"

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DrUB0g8Vjgg&feature=kp"]Simply Red - Money's Too Tight (To Mention) - YouTube[/ame]

[Leyton388]

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_8Pi4icjQ8E#t=191"]the genius of dmoyes - YouTube[/ame]

Sony have released a new united edition gamepad for FIFA

[Leyton388]

Giving Mata to Moyes is like giving your nan an iPad.

[Paddy]

His celebration at 2-1 was so small time.

[Fivex]

His celebration at 2-1 was so small time.

That was so bizarre. Talk about egg on your face

[S-RED]

He should have been screaming at his team to remain focused, not jump up and down like a kid on xmas day.

Massively small time

[PTP]

Wasn't just moyes tho the players went mental as well...Rooney dropped to his knees, pumping both fists in the air like it was the winner in the last minute of the World Cup final

[S-RED]

Thats right, how quickly he has reduced their expectations.

[Exiled_red]

When I was a teenager me and my mates had a saying "It's all gone horribly Ray Harford" taking the piss out of our mate who was a Blackburn Rovers fan, (referring to Ray Harford taking over from Kenny Dalglish and taking Blackburn from Champions one season to 7th place in a season). I think that saying may need to be updated...

[vlahka]

And I should be bothered about De Boer why?

Well for one hes not as **** as Moyes. Thats already a bad thing. Hes only been managing a few years and these are his stats-

Manager
Ajax
Eredivisie (3): 2010–11, 2011–12, 2012–13
Johan Cruijff Shield (1): 2013

Assistant coach
Netherlands
2010 FIFA World Cup: Runner-up

Individual
Amsterdamse coach van het jaar (De Fanny) : 2012
Rinus Michels Award: 2013
JFK's Greatest Man Award: 2013[20]

I'd like to point out that last one there, Greatest Man Award. Thats pivotal.