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  • red g
    • Jul 2006
    • 29964

    #7576
    Manchester United boss David Moyes concedes defeats against leading Premier League clubs have hurt him this season as he prepares his side for tonight's derby with Manchester City.

    Defeats by City last September, Chelsea at Stamford Bridge and the recent 3-0 home loss to old rivals Liverpool have taken their toll on the United manager.

    A 1-0 win over Arsenal on 10 November is their only victory against a top-nine side in the league under Moyes but United will get the chance to improve on that poor record at Old Trafford.

    "They have definitely hurt," Moyes said of the high-profile defeats.

    "They have hurt more because I joined Manchester United with big expectations myself, that I was coming to the winning football club.

    "Despite not winning anything, I've got a winning mentality and that's what I wanted to do, so I'm disappointed with myself and I'm disappointed that we've been unable to do that.

    "But it has not been for the want of trying, that's for sure.

    "We want to try and perform better in the bigger games than what we have done."

    City boss Manuel Pellegrini has adopted a conciliatory tone ahead of the derby, in contrast to comments made last month, where he suggested United were a spent force and that City were the only team in Manchester.

    Moyes has taken issue with that assertion though and hit back at his counterpart.

    Moyes says United's players are determined to reward the club's fans for their loyal support with a big performance in the derby.

    I've said many times how well the supporters have reacted to what has been a difficult season," said Moyes. "They have been great and the atmosphere has been great inside Old Trafford.

    "They have played their part in helping the team. We've not always done our side of it, but recently we have, and the supporters have responded to that as well.

    "We go out to win every game, not just the derby game, but obviously it means a lot more to supporters and it means a lot in the city, if we win."

    Wayne Rooney will be a key player for United against City and Moyes insists the striker should already be regarded as a club legend, having scored 212 goals for the Red Devils.

    "If you are third top scorer of a club like Manchester United you already are a legend," said Moyes.


    "As long as he doesn't pick up any serious injuries he has a real good chance of breaking Denis Law's and Sir Bobby Charlton's records and that would be some feat.

    "His form throughout the season has been very good and his goal against West Ham capped it all off. He showed what he is about and he has a big energy back again."

    "Manchester United had lots and lots of seasons of domination," added the Scotsman.

    "I don't think if I was a manager I would have turned round and necessarily said that we were the only club in Manchester because football does change, it goes in cycles."

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    Weak willed, Wank or do they have a masterplan?

    Think we have the answer..Slot!!

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    • baitman
      Dad's Cabs
      • Sep 2011
      • 27745

      #7577
      Originally posted by Sarb
      Nah I want Arsenal to lose because as a minimum Id like 3rd
      this doesnt make sense cos the main competition for 1st and 2nd are city and chelsea, we would/should easily nudge past arsenal for third if we dont make the top two, arsenal only 4th.
      removing all the weak links makes us stronger

      too many gutless players, no beef or desire. pussies everywhere... sack them all.

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      • Sarb
        Doomed, we're all doomed!
        • Jun 2007
        • 11302

        #7578
        Originally posted by baitman
        this doesnt make sense cos the main competition for 1st and 2nd are city and chelsea, we would/should easily nudge past arsenal for third if we dont make the top two, arsenal only 4th.
        Course it makes sense.

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        • Gibbo
          Like a boss
          • Jul 2010
          • 26212

          #7579
          Originally posted by Sarb
          Nah I want Arsenal to lose because as a minimum Id like 3rd
          Wait what? If City lose against the Mancs and Arsenal it gives us a much greater chance of finishing first, never mind third.

          Top 4 for me is pretty much ours. Pushing for the title should be number one priority.
          The times they are a changin'.

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          • Sarb
            Doomed, we're all doomed!
            • Jun 2007
            • 11302

            #7580
            I dont think top 4 is guaranteed though

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            • PTP
              Passion for fire alarms or extinguishers?
              • Jul 2006
              • 34987

              #7581
              did moyes really say this

              Despite not winning anything, I've got a winning mentality
              i own everton fans on the internet....that's what i do

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              • Fredo
                Not to be taken seriously
                • Aug 2010
                • 35173

                #7582
                All managers like to think they are winners.
                Are we winning?

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                • BubbaZanetti
                  Fagan
                  • Feb 2007
                  • 1490

                  #7583
                  Moysey is the ultimate non-winning winner - trophies aren't relevant to him, he's beyond that.

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                  • Gibbo
                    Like a boss
                    • Jul 2010
                    • 26212

                    #7584
                    Originally posted by Sarb
                    I dont think top 4 is guaranteed though
                    It would be a pretty huge **** up for us to drop 9 points.

                    And it's Spurs who would catch us, not Arsenal.
                    The times they are a changin'.

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                    • destinydude
                      Dalglish
                      • Dec 2009
                      • 4274

                      #7585
                      Originally posted by Gibbo
                      It would be a pretty huge **** up for us to drop 9 points.

                      And it's Spurs who would catch us, not Arsenal.
                      Even if we drop 9 points, Spurs have to win all their games in hand and we have to lose pretty badly for us to **** up our GD.

                      Spurs are out of the top four race.
                      Patience when teased often, transforms into rage

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                      • G
                        Paisley
                        • Aug 2006
                        • 16686

                        #7586
                        Originally posted by Sarb
                        I don't think top 4 is guaranteed though
                        We have top 4 in the bag,I'm of the opinion we'll be at the very least in the top 2,stop worrying and enjoy this title charge,think positive man.There is no logic in thinking that our form from the last 15 months will suddenly disappear and we'll go on a massive losing streak.If what your football team has being doing this season doesn't make you rejoice and embrace the happiness without worrying about the tiny chance of failure you should consider another passion.

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                        • JohnDoe
                          Ian Holloway
                          • Jul 2007
                          • 10892

                          #7587
                          I'll be cheering for the mancs tonight, for the first time ever. Us possibly winning the title comes before everything else, and we need to keep the #MoyesIn movement strong.

                          #MoyesIn

                          Let's go, ManYoo cunts.

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                          • G
                            Paisley
                            • Aug 2006
                            • 16686

                            #7588
                            I can't allow myself to cheer for those cunts,I was last week during the Olympiakos game but the reaction since then has reminded me of their massive cuntishness.

                            I don't want them to lose but I won't be wishing them to success.

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                            • JohnDoe
                              Ian Holloway
                              • Jul 2007
                              • 10892

                              #7589
                              Originally posted by G
                              I can't allow myself to cheer for those cunts,I was last week during the Olympiakos game but the reaction since then has reminded me of their massive cuntishness.

                              I don't want them to lose but I won't be wishing them to success.
                              It's hardly success if they beat City tonight. They've had a terrible season pulled from our dreams, so a few false dawns that give Moyes another season would be great for us, especially if it directly benefits us like in this match.

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                              • G
                                Paisley
                                • Aug 2006
                                • 16686

                                #7590
                                Success in the game,I would have thought that would be obvious.

                                A draw is still a good result for us and Moyes without having to want them winning.

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