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  • TheElephantMan
    Hodgsoned
    • Jul 2006
    • 9076

    #8701
    Originally posted by destinydude
    Martinez would make the jump if the job is offered.
    I really doubt that. The job wouldn't be right for him at the moment. Everton is perfect for Martinez at this stage of his career.

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    • Exiled_red
      Paisley
      • Nov 2007
      • 55280

      #8702
      Originally posted by TheElephantMan
      I think Martinez is very happy at Everton and he's an intelligent bloke. I doubt very much that he would be daft enough to make the jump at this stage of his career.
      I would agree with the first bit, but how many opportunities do you get to manage one of the big clubs (and Man Utd are still one of the big clubs). If the opportunity comes along for him, it's a hell of a risk to turn it down and hope he gets another chance in future.
      The only gracious way to accept an insult is to ignore it; if you can't ignore it, top it; if you can't top it, laugh at it; if you can't laugh at it, it's probably deserved.

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      • Fierce
        I'm only the bassist
        • Jul 2006
        • 15834

        #8703
        Originally posted by destinydude
        Martinez would make the jump if the job is offered.
        No he wouldn't
        I saw a dead fish on the pavement and thought "what did you expect?"
        There's no water round here stupid, should have stayed where it was wet

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        • TheElephantMan
          Hodgsoned
          • Jul 2006
          • 9076

          #8704
          Originally posted by Exiled_red
          I would agree with the first bit, but how many opportunities do you get to manage one of the big clubs (and Man Utd are still one of the big clubs). If the opportunity comes along for him, it's a hell of a risk to turn it down and hope you get another chance in future.
          Look what's happening to David Moyes. Will his United tenure enhance his career? It might boost his bank balance for a bit.

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          • wavydavy
            Dalglish
            • Mar 2007
            • 3569

            #8705
            Originally posted by Gibbo
            I reckon it'll be someone on the younger side now, they may try and emulate what we're doing.
            One million per cent correct IMO. It's getting the right guy though isn't it?
            I have one word to offer - honesty. I couldn't be devious if I tried. Joe Fagan.

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            • Gaz
              Shankly
              • Jul 2006
              • 6004

              #8706
              What a way to put a downer on a great weekend
              We managed to rectify it, though, because it now says, "Cook" where it once said "Cock", and "Pass" where it once said "Piss", so it

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              • Exiled_red
                Paisley
                • Nov 2007
                • 55280

                #8707
                Originally posted by TheElephantMan
                Look what's happening to David Moyes. Will his United tenure enhance his career? It might boost his bank balance for a bit.
                No it won't enhance his career given what has happened, but he didn't know that at the time. He was ambitious and was right to make the move, if he'd turned it down do you think he would have got another opportunity?
                The only gracious way to accept an insult is to ignore it; if you can't ignore it, top it; if you can't top it, laugh at it; if you can't laugh at it, it's probably deserved.

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                • Che Scouse Guevara
                  Houllier
                  • Apr 2014
                  • 270

                  #8708
                  Originally posted by TheElephantMan
                  I really doubt that. The job wouldn't be right for him at the moment. Everton is perfect for Martinez at this stage of his career.
                  Money talks. If he gets Everton into Europe I doubt he will as he will have a decent project going on but when ridiculous amounts of money is being thrown about, you never know.
                  They say our days are numbered were not famous anymore but Scousers rule the country like we've always done before!

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                  • Maxiedge
                    Shankly
                    • Jun 2007
                    • 7769

                    #8709
                    Ok I guess its safe to say now that the way he had a go at phil jones yesterday post match made me laugh. Said something like 'if he was a keeper, that wouldve been a great save'.

                    It actually gave the impression that he hates it there and the players too.

                    Ive got a bit of a soft spot for him after that.

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                    • TheElephantMan
                      Hodgsoned
                      • Jul 2006
                      • 9076

                      #8710
                      Originally posted by Exiled_red
                      No it won't enhance his career given what has happened, but he didn't know that at the time. He was ambitious and was right to make the move, if he'd turned it down do you think he would have got another opportunity?
                      Everyone I know thought he was an idiot for taking the job, it was never going to work out for him. Following on from Ferguson was an almost impossible task. It'll take a few years for the United supporters to view their club realistically. Unless a top top manager comes in and somehow resurrects their form then basically the next manager will be just as ****ed as Moyes was.

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                      • Gibbo
                        Like a boss
                        • Jul 2010
                        • 26212

                        #8711
                        United saying Moyes is still manager.

                        There's still a chance
                        The times they are a changin'.

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                        • Roboklopp
                          Cuboid Humanoid
                          • Dec 2006
                          • 30548

                          #8712
                          Scum saying he is still the manager but will learn his date in the next 24 hours. Don't sound hopeful...
                          3rd place. Worst champions ever.

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                          • Yozza
                            Paisley
                            • Sep 2006
                            • 10247

                            #8713
                            Useless **** can't even get sacked properly
                            What do you mean it could've been anyone? Name me one person who's got a grudge against penguins

                            Batman

                            F*** off!!!

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                            • TheElephantMan
                              Hodgsoned
                              • Jul 2006
                              • 9076

                              #8714
                              Originally posted by Yozza
                              Useless **** can't even get sacked properly

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                              • Exiled_red
                                Paisley
                                • Nov 2007
                                • 55280

                                #8715
                                Originally posted by TheElephantMan
                                Everyone I know thought he was an idiot for taking the job, it was never going to work out for him. Following on from Ferguson was an almost impossible task. It'll take a few years for the United supporters to view their club realistically. Unless a top top manager comes in and somehow resurrects their form then basically the next manager will be just as ****ed as Moyes was.
                                Yes true, it was always going to be a tough job whoever took it but I still maintain that for Moyes it was probably a once in a career opportunity, so while it may have been an impossible act to follow if he wanted a top job at the age of 50 it was probably going to be his only chance. I don't think it will have done too much damage to his reputation he will still be able to walk into a midtable PL job when one comes available, so he isn't much further behind than when he left Everton.

                                Martinez being a little younger may get a second opportunity if he turns the first approach from a big club down, but he would have to be successful at Everton, and move on fairly quickly, if he stays at Everton for too long he will stagnate and his time waiting for a top job to come will pass him by, for me that was why Moyes had to take the Man Utd job there was nowhere else to go.
                                The only gracious way to accept an insult is to ignore it; if you can't ignore it, top it; if you can't top it, laugh at it; if you can't laugh at it, it's probably deserved.

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