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    Originally posted by Camble View Post
    It's like the Moyes era where I want anything but the sack as they can't be daft enough to miss out on Mourinho or Pep which worries me.

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      Interestingly a few Mancs I know would
      Rather Giggs than Maureen

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        It's weighing up the probability of success that Maureen brings against the certainty that at some stage (and most likely more than once) he will be a complete and utter embarrassment to the club.

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          Originally posted by redmike65 View Post
          I'm listening to 5live - John Hartson seems convinced that Giggs should be the next manager. Amazing.
          I know, and most of his reasoning was pathetic, listing things Moyes didn't have as a reason to why he failed, without a word about the fact Giggs has even less of those things.

          Giggs has two credentials for the job as far as can see, 1. he's an ex utd player and 2......erm......ok, one credential then.
          Last edited by Vermilion; 27-12-15, 03:36 PM.

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            Giggs would be a brilliant appointment. Obviously not for United.

            I think Mark Hughes could do an excellent job there. Ex-Utd legend and a very good manager. So hopefully he hasnt got a chance.

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              Hopefully they hang on and do what they did with Moyes, wait until top 4 is gone before sacking him.

              I don't think they want Mourinho, Bobby Charlton is on record kind of saying he's not the type of manager they want at the club. They've had two chances to employ him now and haven't yet.

              Also ironic their fans singing his name and wearing Jose masks at the game, when Van Gaal was winning games 1-0 while playing **** football they were up in arms cos its not "how United should play" but that's exactly what Mourinho does!

              Charlton quotes on Jose from 2012:-

              One of the most uncomfortable entries on an ever-lengthening charge sheet was Mourinho's gouging of the eye of Tito Vilanova, then Barcelona's assistant coach, in the 2011 Spanish Super Cup. "A United manager wouldn't do that," Charlton says. "Mourinho is a really good coach but that's as far as I would go really. He's the manager of Real Madrid and we expect to play them in the Champions League by the end of the season."

              When it is put to him that it is difficult to imagine a United manager being allowed to get away with some of Mourinho's behaviour, Charlton says: "You are right. He pontificates too much for my liking. He's a good manager, though."

              But Ferguson admires Mourinho. "He doesn't like him too much, though," Charlton shoots back.
              Last edited by G; 27-12-15, 04:01 PM.

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                Wasn't it the Stoke fans who were singing his name and wearing the masks?

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                  Don't know about yesterday but they were singing his name during the Norwich game at OT.

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                    Originally posted by Cormack74 View Post
                    It's weighing up the probability of success that Maureen brings against the certainty that at some stage (and most likely more than once) he will be a complete and utter embarrassment to the club.
                    I think they also want a manager who will leave a legacy of an improved set up at the club. Mourinho is and has always been a self centred shorttermist.

                    Previously, clubs van Gaal has managed have certainly had a long term link to his ideas. That said it is not always obvious whether he started or implemented that. I actually think they could benefit from keeping him on to train Giggs to be the next manager.
                    "The man who never alters his opinion is like standing water, and breeds reptiles of the mind."
                    -- William Blake

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                      Incredible really to think that the ideal manager for them would've been Klopp. I remember the Mainz coach saying Klopp saw Man Utd as his club, and when you look at them now, he would've been ideal.

                      There's no manager out there who could build a side, play good football, and have the stature to manage a club like Man Utd, unless Guardiola actually fancies it, which is unlikely.

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                        Originally posted by dww View Post
                        I think they also want a manager who will leave a legacy of an improved set up at the club. Mourinho is and has always been a self centred shorttermist.

                        Previously, clubs van Gaal has managed have certainly had a long term link to his ideas. That said it is not always obvious whether he started or implemented that. I actually think they could benefit from keeping him on to train Giggs to be the next manager.
                        That always the plan, its why Giggs is his assistant.

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                          Originally posted by Phoenix07 View Post
                          Incredible really to think that the ideal manager for them would've been Klopp. I remember the Mainz coach saying Klopp saw Man Utd as his club, and when you look at them now, he would've been ideal.

                          There's no manager out there who could build a side, play good football, and have the stature to manage a club like Man Utd, unless Guardiola actually fancies it, which is unlikely.
                          It's hard to see a manager who has specialized in getting the best out of highly technical squads wanting to mould Smalling and Jones isn't it? You would think that the one thing Guardiola might want on his CV is turning a previously minor club into a major power - City would be the only option that would suit in that regard.
                          "The man who never alters his opinion is like standing water, and breeds reptiles of the mind."
                          -- William Blake

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                            Originally posted by G View Post
                            That always the plan, its why Giggs is his assistant.
                            My point was more that it might even be worth continuing with that plan despite LvG apparently being a bit crap at the minute.

                            I still think they are having a problem we have had for ages - it is really hard to build a squad when you have multiple units to perfect without limitless funds (and arguably doubly hard if one are you need to improve is goalscoring).
                            "The man who never alters his opinion is like standing water, and breeds reptiles of the mind."
                            -- William Blake

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                              Originally posted by dww View Post
                              It's hard to see a manager who has specialized in getting the best out of highly technical squads wanting to mould Smalling and Jones isn't it? You would think that the one thing Guardiola might want on his CV is turning a previously minor club into a major power - City would be the only option that would suit in that regard.
                              The problem Guardiola has is that Man City are bankrolled by Abu Dhabi, and that diminishes a lot of people's view of the "minor" club in Manchester being turned into a major European force.

                              Man Utd and Arsenal are the ideal clubs for him, but he seems nailed on for City.

                              As for Man Utd, they're in a similar position to where we've been in the past. Squad massively lacking in talent and full of overpriced players. The Ferguson era is still recent, and they never had the threat of administration from a dismal ownership hell bent on austerity to keep their grip on the club.

                              Unai Emery would be an excellent choice if there was a wider gap between now and the Ferguson era.

                              They are stuck, because Mourinho doesn't build teams, and his next club after winning the English, Italian and Spanish leagues was meant to be his dynasty. It turns out he went back to Chelsea and had one great year, but didn't put any foundations in which you could consider long-term building.

                              Carlo Ancelotti will be at Bayern, and Diego Simeone's brand of football isn't great, and he also seems to want to build a legacy at Atletico.

                              Antonio Conte could be the outside choice. He has managed Juventus and now Italy, and does play good football. No one has mentioned him though, and whether he has the stature to manage Man Utd is another thing.

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