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  • Lecter
    Nicked from elsewhere
    • Jul 2006
    • 18261

    #16366
    Originally posted by red g
    Well lets hope Pogba doesnt show the same upward trajectory that gerrard went on as it was about 23 he really kicked on.

    Its going to be **** having a good scum again reeally enjoyed there last few seasons.
    Dont worry his trajectory will be stunted by that **** cunt of a manager he has now
    Bob Paisley - "This club has been my life. I'd go out and sweep the street and be proud to do it for Liverpool if they asked me to."

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    • Irishnev
      Paisley
      • Aug 2006
      • 18294

      #16367
      Originally posted by Lecter
      Dont worry his trajectory will be stunted by that **** cunt of a manager he has now
      What makes you think that Lec? I'd agree re Mourinho not bringing young players through but he'd have a good record of developing/getting the best of players coming into their prime - especially midfielders. Essien, Lampard, Deco, Sneijder, Ozil, Matic and Khedeira are examples of players he had at the same age ish and they all flourished under him.

      Mourinho is a cunt no doubt about that but he can build winning teams even though he doesn't sustain it. He will bring the worst traits of Pogba out also which might give them a nasty edge they are also missing.

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      • Lecter
        Nicked from elsewhere
        • Jul 2006
        • 18261

        #16368
        Originally posted by Irishnev
        What makes you think that Lec? I'd agree re Mourinho not bringing young players through but he'd have a good record of developing/getting the best of players coming into their prime - especially midfielders. Essien, Lampard, Deco, Sneijder, Ozil, Matic and Khedeira are examples of players he had at the same age ish and they all flourished under him.

        Mourinho is a cunt no doubt about that but he can build winning teams even though he doesn't sustain it. He will bring the worst traits of Pogba out also which might give them a nasty edge they are also missing.
        I dont think Mourinho develops anyone, he just buys or inherits good players

        I think Mourinho's problem is that the league has changed since he had his big success here. Theres a lot more competition for a start and even the lesser teams that he could bore to death in the past will attack teams

        Theres also the expectation at United and thats not just silverware its the style of play (which Moyes & LVG have struggled with). I am not sure Mourinho is able to provide that type of football

        Cant wait until Pogba is told to play the Huth role
        Bob Paisley - "This club has been my life. I'd go out and sweep the street and be proud to do it for Liverpool if they asked me to."

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        • Irishnev
          Paisley
          • Aug 2006
          • 18294

          #16369
          Originally posted by Lecter
          I dont think Mourinho develops anyone, he just buys or inherits good players

          I think Mourinho's problem is that the league has changed since he had his big success here. Theres a lot more competition for a start and even the lesser teams that he could bore to death in the past will attack teams

          Theres also the expectation at United and thats not just silverware its the style of play (which Moyes & LVG have struggled with). I am not sure Mourinho is able to provide that type of football

          Cant wait until Pogba is told to play the Huth role
          That's fair enough but I still think he can build teams that are had to beat. Agree re the style because they wouldn't accept his 'philosophy' at Madrid so United are cut from the same cloth stylistically. Their fans crave success so they may tolerate anything served up if they win.

          Personally I think super Phil Jones will play the Huth role - get it on his head when chasing the game!!

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          • Patricks_Berger
            Fagan
            • May 2009
            • 1270

            #16370
            Originally posted by danperkins
            completely agree with this. We are Man United and even without Champs League we can compete with anyone. That's the message i've got over the last few seasons anyways and they have spent their asses off trying to keep up appearances. They are so desperate to remind the world of football, that are a still a relevant club.

            On his day Pogba is a world beater, other times he looks like a lazy **** (Same has been said of Ibra) Forgetting the money, it's a cracking signing for them. Pogba and Ibrahimovic are hugely talented, flawed players.

            Let's hope it all goes dreadfully wrong
            In many ways they are like a more premium version of LFC.

            Spend some money to look like you are competing (but well within your comfort zone), maintain your "presence" and maximise exposure in emerging football markets, increase your commercial revenues. But don't actually win anything or even bother to go head to head with your main rivals (i.e. Barca or Real for Utd, the PL top 4 for us).

            Its the American sports model applied in football.

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            • Fosterbloke
              Run the Jewels
              • Dec 2009
              • 39095

              #16371
              I guess we'll know more after 10 games or so. I hope they struggle to adapt and the lack of decent pre-season should see them struggle for points initially as they flounder fitness wise. Oh and Pogba gets a red card!

              Well one can dream!
              Was mu

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              • danperkins
                Martin Skrtel can win a game of Connect Four in three moves
                • May 2010
                • 50411

                #16372
                Originally posted by Irishnev
                They are relevant financially and as a business but they haven't been on the pitch for sometime. Pogba was on the market this year and most big clubs -Barca, Real, PSG, City, Chelsea and Utd all wanted him. United were prepared to do whatever it took to get him IMO - fee, salary, agent fee etc. Them signing him makes them relevant in terms of showing that they can outbid their rivals and attract him over the other clubs mentioned. The spine they have now and Jose make them a potential force on the pitch also now.

                Real like to have to title of being the club with the most expensive player in the world - Bale, Ronaldo, Kaka, Zidane, Figo etc and now United have taken it from them.

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                • danperkins
                  Martin Skrtel can win a game of Connect Four in three moves
                  • May 2010
                  • 50411

                  #16373
                  Originally posted by Patricks_Berger
                  In many ways they are like a more premium version of LFC.

                  Spend some money to look like you are competing (but well within your comfort zone), maintain your "presence" and maximise exposure in emerging football markets, increase your commercial revenues. But don't actually win anything or even bother to go head to head with your main rivals (i.e. Barca or Real for Utd, the PL top 4 for us).

                  Its the American sports model applied in football.
                  it really does seem that way.

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                  • Parm
                    Skipinder
                    • Jul 2006
                    • 10294

                    #16374
                    [ame="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y6JknOiumDY"]Alex Ferguson's Worst XI Team - FIFA 14 - YouTube[/ame]


                    "Who's your Daddy now?"

                    LFC Champions one season someday
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                    • Parm
                      Skipinder
                      • Jul 2006
                      • 10294

                      #16375
                      Originally posted by Irishnev
                      They are relevant financially and as a business but they haven't been on the pitch for sometime. Pogba was on the market this year and most big clubs -Barca, Real, PSG, City, Chelsea and Utd all wanted him. United were prepared to do whatever it took to get him IMO - fee, salary, agent fee etc. Them signing him makes them relevant in terms of showing that they can outbid their rivals and attract him over the other clubs mentioned. The spine they have now and Jose make them a potential force on the pitch also now.

                      Real like to have to title of being the club with the most expensive player in the world - Bale, Ronaldo, Kaka, Zidane, Figo etc and now United have taken it from them.
                      you do have to wonder why Real/Barca etc just let the scum have a free run at him. Money wise it wouldn't be a problem and I'm sure Real/Addias would be making a fair few quid off the back of Pogba. Lets see if he is worth the money/hype and can do the business for the Scum. He struggled in a disciplined defensive role for France at the Euros so not sure how he'll cope with Maureen's rigid structures.


                      "Who's your Daddy now?"

                      LFC Champions one season someday
                      Jurgen Klopp is just boss
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                      • Parm
                        Skipinder
                        • Jul 2006
                        • 10294

                        #16376
                        Originally posted by foresterbloke
                        I guess we'll know more after 10 games or so. I hope they struggle to adapt and the lack of decent pre-season should see them struggle for points initially as they flounder fitness wise. Oh and Pogba gets a red card!

                        Well one can dream!
                        that might be more of a problem for them than they realise. All that way to china to get spanked by BvB and have the city game called off last min.


                        "Who's your Daddy now?"

                        LFC Champions one season someday
                        Jurgen Klopp is just boss
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                        • Irishnev
                          Paisley
                          • Aug 2006
                          • 18294

                          #16377
                          Originally posted by Parm
                          you do have to wonder why Real/Barca etc just let the scum have a free run at him. Money wise it wouldn't be a problem and I'm sure Real/Addias would be making a fair few quid off the back of Pogba. Lets see if he is worth the money/hype and can do the business for the Scum. He struggled in a disciplined defensive role for France at the Euros so not sure how he'll cope with Maureen's rigid structures.
                          I just think that Real and Barca thought he was overpriced but am surprised PSG didn't try but Krychoviak is a good alternative.

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                          • Roboklopp
                            Cuboid Humanoid
                            • Dec 2006
                            • 30548

                            #16378
                            Surely felatio will be playing the Huth role?
                            3rd place. Worst champions ever.

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                            • Fosterbloke
                              Run the Jewels
                              • Dec 2009
                              • 39095

                              #16379
                              Originally posted by Roboklopp
                              Surely felatio will be playing the Huth role?


                              As a giant cocksucker?


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                              Was mu

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                              • Phoenix07
                                The Normal One
                                • Sep 2008
                                • 10405

                                #16380
                                Pogba suspended for the game against Bournemouth due to an outstanding suspension due to be served from his time at Juventus.

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