Manchester United

[Norbs]

Just looked at the table and saw Watford had 12pts and had forgotten they played Utd today. Oh dear oh dear

[SB]

Just looked at the table and saw Watford had 12pts and had forgotten they played Utd today. Oh dear oh dear

The icing on the cake would be if the Watford fans were singing “ CAN WE PLAY YOU EVERY WEEK” to the scum

[Deano]

Won't ask you to divulge your sources but it's heartening to hear them going through so much crap. And therefore having to settle with mediocrity for the medium term. About time.

A lot of the infrastructure is now leaking into the mainstream, almost all journalists hate OT beacuse of WIFI and facilities they are in. the senior staff hate also as they are working in dirty places, kitchens being closed, and soft furnishings being beyond hygienic. Too many plasters on show at OT, far too many, something will have to give.

[Lecter]

There is a massive element of lets "hold" where we are at OT at the moment. Money is still rolling in despite lack of champions league.

Ole gives them a degree of time to try and work out what to do, hence little action. I'm. hearing scary numbers on infrastructure at OT, Training ground and associated offices to bring them up to satisfactory standards.
Rumour has it the changing rooms hav been infested with rodents (right next to railway line also) and given players eat after games etc, it pretty full on.

There is a serious lack of investment/interest from the owners, and its not going to change soon.

Interesting

The one thing I dont think people should under-estimate is that often to get it right on the pitch you have to get it right off it

I was listening to the Sunday Supplement (the sports journo show on Sky) and they were commenting how well run LFC is and that everyone is pulling in the same direction from the commercial side to the sporting staff

They then talked about United and said after being the by-word for being well run through the 90's and early 2000s they are now struggling massively with incompetence at many levels throughout the club

****ing glorious isnt it

[Roboklopp]

Kinda shows you what Rafa was up against



... and yes, yes it is glorious.

[Lecter]

Also I watched the United match yesterday with a United fan and we were just talking generally

They dont believe Ole's football is reflective of the United philosophy, (I think it is similar to Fergies personally) they want United to play a similar system to ours but as I said to him to do that you need to make massive changes including binning off the £50m rightback you have just bought

I really dont think they know what they want or how to achieve it, they just think throwing money at it will help but to me they have to change much more than that

Personally I would drop Ole if I were them (although I am quite happy for him to continue )

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As the current table stands with United in 8th place.
15 points from the teams above them . 4 wins, 3 draws, 0 losses.Home record is 3-1-0 away record is 1-2-0.
10 points from the teams below them . 2 wins, 4 draws, 5 losses. Home record is 1-3-1 away record is 1-1-4.


only turn up for the big games !!! I reemember we used to have that issue a good few years back

[BigChief]

Anyone able to calculate when Utd will be mathematically unable to catch us? Would love it if it was January, got a few Utd noses to rub in it.

[Deano]

Interesting

The one thing I dont think people should under-estimate is that often to get it right on the pitch you have to get it right off it

I was listening to the Sunday Supplement (the sports journo show on Sky) and they were commenting how well run LFC is and that everyone is pulling in the same direction from the commercial side to the sporting staff

They then talked about United and said after being the by-word for being well run through the 90's and early 2000s they are now struggling massively with incompetence at many levels throughout the club

****ing glorious isnt it

LFC have had some catching unto do, and still don't have the the same muscle as Man U. in essence they can afford to throw £300m at the cub and players and not have to worry about the champions league for another 2 years.
Man U's problem with the physical infrastructure of OT is becoming more of an issue per season, its literally falling down.

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http://www.sportingintelligence.com/2019/12/23/ronaldos-juventus-leap-to-join-messis-barca-on-global-pay-podium-231219/

dropped from 9th to 33rd in the Global Salary survey, We are 41st

[Saveloy]

http://www.sportingintelligence.com/...podium-231219/

dropped from 9th to 33rd in the Global Salary survey, We are 41st

Barca's first team average basic pay is over £200k per week! Basic pay!

When Messi finely retires surely their TV deal and sponsorship fall off a cliff?

[Patricks_Berger]

Barca's first team average basic pay is over £200k per week! Basic pay!

When Messi finely retires surely their TV deal and sponsorship fall off a cliff?

As will their average weekly basic pay.

[Saveloy]

As will their average weekly basic pay.

Yeah I'd worked that out. I was just surprised how they manage to pay so much and the impact Messi must have.

[Leyton388]

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[Exiled_red]

As the current table stands with United in 8th place.
15 points from the teams above them . 4 wins, 3 draws, 0 losses.Home record is 3-1-0 away record is 1-2-0.
10 points from the teams below them . 2 wins, 4 draws, 5 losses. Home record is 1-3-1 away record is 1-1-4.


only turn up for the big games !!! I reemember we used to have that issue a good few years back

The suggestion on MOTD2 was that their style of play relies on pace and counter attacking football, so when teams sit back they don't have the opportunity to play to their strengths and lack the creativity to break teams down. I can see that.