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  • Venton
    Paisley
    • Sep 2006
    • 15573

    #25606
    But it's understood the hackers still have United in their grip after the National Cyber Security Centre on Thursday night confirmed they are helping the club to resolve the crisis.
    Experimental music, Metropolitan foodstuffs, Mexican wrestler art, London suburbia, wry whimsy, fansy pants flim flam lad

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    • ChesterDave
      Paisley
      • Oct 2010
      • 32224

      #25607
      United say potentially 'disastrous' attack will not impact match-day operations
      Surely it will impact match day when it is revealed all the bribes chucked the way of officials over the last 20 years
      Football without Origi is nothing

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      • baitman
        Dad's Cabs
        • Sep 2011
        • 27745

        #25608
        I bet the document shredders are working all night, refs everywhere ****tin it
        removing all the weak links makes us stronger

        too many gutless players, no beef or desire. pussies everywhere... sack them all.

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        • Irishnev
          Paisley
          • Aug 2006
          • 18294

          #25609
          [ame="https://twitter.com/klavandijk/status/1333109864260923394"]https://twitter.com/klavandijk/status/1333109864260923394[/ame]

          The ghost of Christmas past

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          • Irishnev
            Paisley
            • Aug 2006
            • 18294

            #25610
            [ame="https://twitter.com/mirrorfootball/status/1333169390720835585"]https://twitter.com/mirrorfootball/status/1333169390720835585[/ame]

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            • Exiled_red
              Paisley
              • Nov 2007
              • 55280

              #25611
              I've not seen the post itself but the suggestion on twitter is that it was the same word Suarez used to Evra. It'll be interesting to see if he gets the same sort of ban...
              The only gracious way to accept an insult is to ignore it; if you can't ignore it, top it; if you can't top it, laugh at it; if you can't laugh at it, it's probably deserved.

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              • El Diego
                Dalglish
                • Jul 2006
                • 3375

                #25612
                It's a tough one, obviously it's not meant offensively. Also not an offensive term in his culture but in ours it is. So he should be punished, not as severely as Suarez though.
                I think it's a foul, and if the ref gives it. He got to give a penalty. I know it's outside the box, but you see them given that close to the area. So if the ref gives it he's got to give the penalty as it so close to the area. But I think it's a penalty. Robbie Savage 8/11/06

                Are you watching Manchester United? Are you watching Chelsea? This is Liverpool F.C taking over the bloody world!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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                • Harv
                  Randy Marsh
                  • Jul 2006
                  • 26280

                  #25613
                  Originally posted by El Diego
                  It's a tough one, obviously it's not meant offensively. Also not an offensive term in his culture but in ours it is. So he should be punished, not as severely as Suarez though.
                  How so, you don't even use the word, so how can it be offensive? You cant take a Spanish word that's similar to something in English and twist it to suit a racial agenda in a different culture. Anyone that's studied language knows you cannot literally translate phrases and terms in English. Well, you can, but you'll have the context completely out of whack and look like a total dickhead. Especially in Spanish and Italian.

                  As ive said back then, negrito is a widely used term. There is absolutely nothing racial about it. A couple of Argie lads I know say it to each other often.

                  I get that people are questioning it in regards to the ban Suarez got. But we all know that was bull**** and Evra called him a far worse term in Spanish.
                  "When a man insults my country I insult him, by taking his woman" Tony Yeboah

                  "looking through your posts since 2007 and what you have consistently written about my football team I have come to the conclusion that if you had 1 more brain cell you would be a plant .. your father was a hamster and your mother smells of elder berries, I fart in your general direction ..." Nicey

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                  • El Diego
                    Dalglish
                    • Jul 2006
                    • 3375

                    #25614
                    What did Evra called Suarez? Thought he just called him a South American?
                    I think it's a foul, and if the ref gives it. He got to give a penalty. I know it's outside the box, but you see them given that close to the area. So if the ref gives it he's got to give the penalty as it so close to the area. But I think it's a penalty. Robbie Savage 8/11/06

                    Are you watching Manchester United? Are you watching Chelsea? This is Liverpool F.C taking over the bloody world!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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                    • El Diego
                      Dalglish
                      • Jul 2006
                      • 3375

                      #25615
                      The FA set a precedent when they banned Suarez. I don’t how they can’t not ban Cavani for at least a game like Bernardo Silva.
                      I think it's a foul, and if the ref gives it. He got to give a penalty. I know it's outside the box, but you see them given that close to the area. So if the ref gives it he's got to give the penalty as it so close to the area. But I think it's a penalty. Robbie Savage 8/11/06

                      Are you watching Manchester United? Are you watching Chelsea? This is Liverpool F.C taking over the bloody world!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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                      • frank the tank
                        Paisley
                        • Mar 2008
                        • 12892

                        #25616
                        Originally posted by El Diego
                        The FA set a precedent when they banned Suarez. I don’t how they can’t not ban Cavani for at least a game like Bernardo Silva.
                        Has to be a ban..... I would say 3 games would be fair.

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                        • calvoboy
                          Dalglish
                          • Jul 2006
                          • 2676

                          #25617
                          Originally posted by Exiled_red
                          I've not seen the post itself but the suggestion on twitter is that it was the same word Suarez used to Evra. It'll be interesting to see if he gets the same sort of ban...
                          Despite using the same word, in its nature it's closer to Bernardo Silva's offence than Suarez's. I expect he'll get a one match ban and warning about future conduct, same as Silva did.

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                          • frank the tank
                            Paisley
                            • Mar 2008
                            • 12892

                            #25618
                            Originally posted by calvoboy
                            Despite using the same word, in its nature it's closer to Bernardo Silva's offence than Suarez's. I expect he'll get a one match ban and warning about future conduct, same as Silva did.
                            Yip makes sense too.

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                            • spud_gun
                              Paisley
                              • Jul 2006
                              • 26519

                              #25619
                              I think we'd be best served as a fan base by staying out of this. We did ourselves no favours as a fan base and a club during the Suarez / Evra affair.

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                              • fidget
                                Paisley
                                • Nov 2010
                                • 11705

                                #25620
                                Originally posted by El Diego
                                What did Evra called Suarez? Thought he just called him a South American?
                                A couple of definitions
                                Sudaca - (Spain, offensive, derogatory, vulgar, slang) A Hispanic American, more precisely a South American, especially one considered to have Amerindian features or a non-European accent; spic/spick.

                                Sudaca is a colloquial term, used as a short way to call people from South American origin mostly in Spain.
                                The term became dark and xenophobic in the '70s and '80s during an era called la Movida Madrileña due to the massive waves of Southamerican immigrants to Spain. Nowadays, all over the world, people feel proud to be called Sudaca, and unfortunately, some others don't.

                                So yeah - Evra started the ethnic slurs and mixed race Suarez carried it on.
                                A pair of windup merchants winding each other up then Suarez gets hanged for it by the not fit for purpose and systemically racist FA
                                Last edited by fidget; 30-11-20, 11:13 AM.
                                Glass Half Full

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