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    Why did he leave Madrid after only 1 season? He wanted to play?
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      Originally posted by Fernandinho View Post
      Why did he leave Madrid after only 1 season? He wanted to play?
      RM was the place where he actually found his best position....... the bench. He rarely got game time there.
      "That's how I found myself on the Kop that day I had my blue-and-white scarf safely tucked away inside my coat as I listened to Liverpool songs and swayed with the masses.

      Then City scored and I screeched and this big bloke, a Liverpool supporter, made towards me and I thought he was going to throttle me. But he just pulled my scarf from under my coat so it lay on the outside, and said: "You should always be proud of your colours, lad."

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        Originally posted by Fernandinho View Post
        Why did he leave Madrid after only 1 season? He wanted to play?
        Yeah, at Real Madrid he was just a sub, he wanted more game time because he wanted to go to the 2006 World Cup.
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          Always remember that unsubstantiated rumour/theory that when Rafa took over and met with Owen, he asked him about his intentions around renewing his contract.
          Owen paid lip service to him with the same crap he'd been spinning to the media about how it 'wasn't the right time to talk about that and how he looked forward to coming to an agreement' blah blah.......... little realising that Rafa, being at the forefront of continental football, knew that his agent was actively seeking options in Spain at the express wishes of the git.
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            Originally posted by McDermotX View Post
            Always remember that unsubstantiated rumour/theory that when Rafa took over and met with Owen, he asked him about his intentions around renewing his contract.
            Owen paid lip service to him with the same crap he'd been spinning to the media about how it 'wasn't the right time to talk about that and how he looked forward to coming to an agreement' blah blah.......... little realising that Rafa, being at the forefront of continental football, knew that his agent was actively seeking options in Spain at the express wishes of the git.
            I was just about to type the same thing, I read that Rafa whilst at Valencia had received a circular hawking Owen's ass around Europe, apparently from his Agent. Rafa showed the letter to Owen who apparently denied knowledge of it. His Agent later claimed it was normal practice to test the water to find out the true worth of his client, ready for the up coming negotiations with Liverpool.
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              Originally posted by kev776 View Post
              I was just about to type the same thing, I read that Rafa whilst at Valencia had received a circular hawking Owen's ass around Europe, apparently from his Agent. Rafa showed the letter to Owen who apparently denied knowledge of it. His Agent later claimed it was normal practice to test the water to find out the true worth of his client, ready for the up coming negotiations with Liverpool.
              I suspect that it is pretty normal practice. How else do you establish your true market worth?
              Oh I don't know.

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                Originally posted by Fernandinho View Post
                Why did he leave Madrid after only 1 season? He wanted to play?
                He was never ever going to get a game there because his competition was fat Ronaldo who was still one of the best strikers in the world at that time and then Raul who was Madrids own boy wonder and already becoming a club legend with their fans, even though owen did do well coming on as a sub on a few occasions.

                When Michael Owen was at his peak, i was about 8 or 9 years old and he was my first football hero, i absolutely worshipped him. i think some other people will forget how good he was at his peak, the only other striker who was as effective in the prem around the early 2000's was Henry, so definitely world class. I didnt even like cheese n onion crisps but would eat the walkers ones because they were cheese n owen

                Then he left which was a bit of a suckerpunch but at the same time i can understand the attraction of real madrid with becks,zidane roberto carlos, ronnie, raul etc.

                I still hoped for his sake that his career would get back on track at newcastle, but joining United was betrayal of my youthful innocence and then with twitter allowing you to see snippets of somebodys personality, i hated him but ever since he joined stoke i have felt nothing but pity for him, obviously he has done fabulously materialistically but Owen could have been one of the great strikers, most probably the best one in english history. his game was somewhat limited but his talent was still rare and as with any football player whoever they play for, its a shame to see their career curtailed by injury.
                Y.N.W.A!!!!!!

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                  Originally posted by dom9 View Post
                  I suspect that it is pretty normal practice. How else do you establish your true market worth?
                  Not in writing though. That leaves a solid paper trail ad could cause issues further down the line. I would have though the major agents are so well connected that it would only take a few calls to establish a players worth.
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                    True, true.
                    Oh I don't know.

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                      Didi was talking rubbish again on Twitter last night. Seems to have lost it a bit after his spat with Barton. I don't hate Owen at all. Hamann was saying 'you can't deny a player a chance to play for Madrid'. No one really had a problem with that. The issue was he was stringing the club and fans along saying he was looking to sign a deal then left with a few days of the window to go.

                      Like Tony Barrett said to Didi 'We got £8m for a player who we should have got £28m for'. Didi still didn't have an issue with it. I'm sorry but we are LFC, a big club. Owen did pretty much the same as what McManaman did to us but Macca left on a free. Scandalous really. Now that he has retired, I won't praise the guy or anything. Scammed us out of a load of money at a time when Rafa generally probably wouldn't have wasted it on pap he bought later in his reign

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                        There was only one reason his agent was hawking his name around, and that was in preparation for a move, he obviously felt he'd gone as far as he could with LFC. imo.

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                          Originally posted by Vermilion View Post
                          There was only one reason his agent was hawking his name around, and that was in preparation for a move, he obviously felt he'd gone as far as he could with LFC. imo.


                          He played like it too. He just stood up top waiting for the ball to come to him all the time. Piss poor

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                            Originally posted by Sarb View Post
                            Didi was talking rubbish again on Twitter last night. Seems to have lost it a bit after his spat with Barton. I don't hate Owen at all. Hamann was saying 'you can't deny a player a chance to play for Madrid'. No one really had a problem with that. The issue was he was stringing the club and fans along saying he was looking to sign a deal then left with a few days of the window to go.

                            Like Tony Barrett said to Didi 'We got £8m for a player who we should have got £28m for'. Didi still didn't have an issue with it. I'm sorry but we are LFC, a big club. Owen did pretty much the same as what McManaman did to us but Macca left on a free. Scandalous really. Now that he has retired, I won't praise the guy or anything. Scammed us out of a load of money at a time when Rafa generally probably wouldn't have wasted it on pap he bought later in his reign
                            Why?

                            Why should any employees show loyalty to their employer? It's rarely reciprocated. It's a personal decision for each individual surely? I'm with Didi in this one.

                            Would you have preferred to have left the season before so that we would have got money? Or would you have liked to him to sign a new contract and then left a season after so that the club could maximise its return on him?

                            Madrid were in for him. He wanted go. If he had waited another year or two, that opportunity may never have come around again.

                            That's life.
                            Last edited by dom9; 20-03-13, 01:06 PM.
                            Oh I don't know.

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                              Originally posted by Sarb View Post


                              He played like it too. He just stood up top waiting for the ball to come to him all the time. Piss poor
                              But yet you think he should have stayed for longer.

                              That just doesn't make sense, to me at least.
                              Oh I don't know.

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                                Originally posted by dom9 View Post
                                But yet you think he should have stayed for longer.

                                That just doesn't make sense, to me at least.
                                I don't think he should have stayed longer at all. My issue is he strung the club along, making out he'd sign when it was pretty obvious he wasn't and was waiting for a club to come in for him

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