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    Originally posted by Kenneth View Post
    I doubt that. His style of play relied on attributes that his body couldn't maintain. His failure to adapt to being more of a number 10 limited his career after his injuries. I don't buy the stuff about us being responsible for his injuries really.
    He got a bad hamstring injury and it looked like the club didn't care, no treatment for weeks.

    Houllier played him together with Heskey instead of Fowler. Lump it to Heskey so we could use Owen's pace. Counter attacking football.

    We built our tactics totally around his pace.

    I can understand that our managers felt the pressure to play him. We had probably the best young talent in the world and if the manager hadn't played him week in week out then he would have been blamed big time by us fans if we didn't won the games and because the results wasn't good enough then Owen had to play in almost every game.

    We couldn't do what DBF do. They win games and because of that he can give the young players the time they need. Ronaldo being one example.
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      his ego is quite atrocious, very much againgst social norms, most normal people don't like to talk about how good they are at something even if it is absolutely true. i wonder if it was always a natural personality trait or the result of being Englands pin up boy and the most celebrated teenager at 17, most probably a mix.
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        Originally posted by lil_luis_07 View Post
        his ego is quite atrocious, very much againgst social norms, most normal people don't like to talk about how good they are at something even if it is absolutely true. i wonder if it was always a natural personality trait or the result of being Englands pin up boy and the most celebrated teenager at 17, most probably a mix.
        I doubt that the club trained the players how to talk to the media back then and how to behave off the pitch.

        I will always wonder how much longer Fowler would have been able to play at the top if he had played at a club with a manager that cared 100% about the players on and off the pitch.

        Moores Liverpool fan but a very bad owner that didn't had a clue how to take care of the club.
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          Originally posted by Arn View Post
          I doubt that the club trained the players how to talk to the media back then and how to behave off the pitch.

          I will always wonder how much longer Fowler would have been able to play at the top if he had played at a club with a manager that cared 100% about the players on and off the pitch.

          Moores Liverpool fan but a very bad owner that didn't had a clue how to take care of the club.
          Think it's harsh to say te managers didn't care. I think it was much more down too lack of education. But yeah, I do wonder if he had been managed better if he would have lasted longer. His game was about his finishing. Think he would have flourished with us now if he was in his prime.
          *Except Michael, who died.

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            I imagine it was impossible for Evans and Houllier to leave him out - he made things happen. Liverpool played better with Owen in the team and there was a period where results were utterly reliant on him and his goals.

            He was also anxious to play, from what I read, and that along with him tearing everything up and us as fans demanding his inclusion for the results, all contribute to how it ended up. A proper case of too much too young and LFC never in the position to really rely on someone else, hence the necessity to play him.

            Its interesting though, that all our iconic strikers in this century have gone on to **** all since they left - Owen, Torres, Fowler, Baros...

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              Somebody should tell Suarez that

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                The contrast between his interview and Sami's is quite striking (bad pun, sorry.) Sami came across as humble and likeable, never met him but he must surely be a thoroughly decent bloke. Owen came across as a bit of a dick but of the two I reckon he's the more likely to have had media training.
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                  Everyone goes on about how nice some players seem to be, but Xabi Alonso still ignored my son and put his window up when he waved to him at Hunts Cross junction, the cunt.

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                    Originally posted by Daniel 7 View Post
                    Everyone goes on about how nice some players seem to be, but Xabi Alonso still ignored my son and put his window up when he waved to him at Hunts Cross junction, the cunt.
                    Did he hit the central locking button as well?
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                      Originally posted by Daniel 7 View Post
                      I imagine it was impossible for Evans and Houllier to leave him out - he made things happen. Liverpool played better with Owen in the team and there was a period where results were utterly reliant on him and his goals.

                      He was also anxious to play, from what I read, and that along with him tearing everything up and us as fans demanding his inclusion for the results, all contribute to how it ended up. A proper case of too much too young and LFC never in the position to really rely on someone else, hence the necessity to play him.

                      Its interesting though, that all our iconic strikers in this century have gone on to **** all since they left - Owen, Torres, Fowler, Baros...


                      If the manager hadn't played him then he would probably left a lot earlier.

                      As already been mentioned, imagine Owen and Fowler playing for us with a manager like Rafa or Rodgers and good owners

                      Both of them could have been the best players in the world many years.

                      Owen and Fowler, two players that shows how important it is to be at the right club at the right time.

                      So many excellent talents out there but very very few get a chance to maximze their potential. Owen and Fowler didn't.
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                        I think Fowler did. Just not for a sustained period of time unfortunately.
                        *Except Michael, who died.

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                          Its sad that those two peaked early in their careers and talk about injuries when they were young compromising their ability - Owen and the hamstring explosion, Fowler and the ankle injury at one of the Bristol clubs in a cup when he was 21/22

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                            Originally posted by Arn View Post


                            So many excellent talents out there but very very few get a chance to maximze their potential. Owen and Fowler didn't.
                            Yes that's true but it was due to injury. And Fowler was still capable IMO but Houllier practically booted him out
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                              'Newcastle fans, following my Football Focus interview, plenty of you tweeting me saying you don't blame me for getting injured but for leaving when we got relegated,' he tweeted.
                              'Despite the club saying they did, they didn't ever offer me a new contract despite them putting it in the press that they did.

                              Financial suicide: Owen says the club could not afford to offer him a new deal after being relegated
                              'How could they when they had just been relegated? It would have been financial suicide.
                              'I've seen it a million times, a club will blatantly lie to their fans to take the moral high ground leaving the player with no leg to stand on.
                              'I've taken the stick for years which is fine but you really don't know half of it. All will be revealed one day.'
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                                Originally posted by Daniel 7 View Post
                                I imagine it was impossible for Evans and Houllier to leave him out - he made things happen. Liverpool played better with Owen in the team and there was a period where results were utterly reliant on him and his goals.

                                He was also anxious to play, from what I read, and that along with him tearing everything up and us as fans demanding his inclusion for the results, all contribute to how it ended up. A proper case of too much too young and LFC never in the position to really rely on someone else, hence the necessity to play him.

                                Its interesting though, that all our iconic strikers in this century have gone on to **** all since they left - Owen, Torres, Fowler, Baros...
                                ...not to mention Voronin.
                                Oh I don't know.

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