Chelsea

[Arn]

I'm not sure why everybody gets so wound up about the guy. So many people lap up the american wrestling ****e which is all pantomime and mourinho brings some of that to the league. I'm delighted he's back. He isn't saying anything that has the slightest impact on my life. He's manager of Chelsea. Seems so many of you seem to be linking everything that happens at said club with rafa and then in the rafa thread there's more of the same and then in the CL thread its all about Rafa being brilliant and if you look in the rodgers thread there will be more comments about rafa. Everything leads to Rafa. Its about time some of you just let it go.

It is a war going on out there between Rafa and Mourinho, a war that started when Garcia scored the goal that knocked them out at Anfield.

Mourinho have hated Rafa every day since then. It is just brilliant reading his bitter digs at Rafa.

When Rafa wins something then Mourinho comes out and try to take all the credit away from him and when Mourinho himself lose something then it is Rafa's fault.



Brilliant reading how bitter he is.

[Tee]

I'm not sure why everybody gets so wound up about the guy. So many people lap up the american wrestling ****e which is all pantomime and mourinho brings some of that to the league. I'm delighted he's back. He isn't saying anything that has the slightest impact on my life. He's manager of Chelsea. Seems so many of you seem to be linking everything that happens at said club with rafa and then in the rafa thread there's more of the same and then in the CL thread its all about Rafa being brilliant and if you look in the rodgers thread there will be more comments about rafa. Everything leads to Rafa. Its about time some of you just let it go.

Rafaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!

[Norbs]

I'm not sure why everybody gets so wound up about the guy. So many people lap up the american wrestling ****e which is all pantomime and mourinho brings some of that to the league. I'm delighted he's back. He isn't saying anything that has the slightest impact on my life. He's manager of Chelsea. Seems so many of you seem to be linking everything that happens at said club with rafa and then in the rafa thread there's more of the same and then in the CL thread its all about Rafa being brilliant and if you look in the rodgers thread there will be more comments about rafa. Everything leads to Rafa. Its about time some of you just let it go.

I like him. Hate Chelsea with a passion though so would love to see him fail. Felt similarly when Rafa was there too

[Arn]

Comment: Jose Mourinho was brought back to Chelsea to win, not nurture 'eggs'

The Blues are on a run of three consecutive defeats following their surprise loss to Basle



The romance of Jose Mourinho’s return to Chelsea has met the corrective force of reality’s iron boot. In their next engagement, Saturday’s home match with Fulham, Chelsea are seeking to end a run of three consecutive defeats, even if one of those was on penalties to Bayern Munich.

Mourinho has thus far failed to establish a pattern of play that any can fathom, his transfer policy looks reactionary and haphazard and, critically, he has lost the most vital knack of all, winning.

In his first coming, Mourinho backed his enigmatic outpourings with results. Talk of eggs needing a mother is fine when you are winning. When you are losing they sound like excuses. Roman Abramovic brought Mourinho back to win, not nurture.

There is no scope for the sympathetic recycling of teams in the Champions League or the Premier League. This must happen seamlessly. The imperative is always three points. Progression is measured in silverware. And it can’t be gradual.

The decision to allow Romelu Lukaku and Victor Moses to leave on loan looks rash in the context of what we are seeing. His declarations of happiness with a forward line that includes a light scoring, utterly reduced Fernando Torres, the lightly regarded Djemba Ba and the outrageous punt that is off-the-pace 32-year-old, Samuel Eto’o, border on madness.

The oversupply of gifted midfielders, augmented by the transfer deadline theft of Willian from Spurs, is a structural two-fingers to Mourinho’s avowed preference for small, manageable squads. Chelsea’s dependence on John Terry, Frank Lampard, Ashley Cole and Peter Cech, players who were at the heart of his great team eight years ago, point to more fundamental problems.

Chelsea’s last win was a month ago at home to Aston Villa, and they were fortunate to edge that. Beyond that, the opening day canter against a deferential Hull represents their only other success. You would not back them to beat Hull this weekend.

Where once there was no embarrassment attached to his hubris, now his anointment as the Special One is the butt of semantic manipulation. Thus he migrates through a series of redactions to the Happy One, the Hopeful One. How long before he becomes the Desperate One or even worse, the Superfluous One.

Mourinho’s judgment and his credibility are suddenly on the line in a way he never imagined when he resurrected his Stamford Bridge love affair. The long stride of Abramovic down the tunnel after last night’s defeat to Basel, sent its own potent message.

This is the worst start to a season since Abramovic acquired the club, and Chelsea’s first home defeat in the group stage of the Champions League in almost ten years. The practiced insouciance in the face of awkward questions will not wash for much longer. We are about to discover how special Mourinho really is, and how patient the owner.

http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/f...s-8826787.html

[Yozza]

[Norbs]

Funny how things go. I had them nailed on to walk the league, based on their creative players and the belief that Mourinho would promote Lukaku who is more in the Drogba mold than Drogba himself

[Bender]

Funny how things go. I had them nailed on to walk the league, based on their creative players and the belief that Mourinho would promote Lukaku who is more in the Drogba mold than Drogba himself

Lukaku turned down west brom at the end of last season to stay on as Mourinho gave Lukaku his word he would get game time and then he gets loaned out again

[Norbs]

Lukaku turned down west brom at the end of last season to stay on as Mourinho gave Lukaku his word he would get game time and then he gets loaned out again

Madness isn't it mate. From the outside they (Mourinho's Chelsea and Lukaku) look a match made in heaven. When you look at the dearth of strikers at the club then loaning him out looks rash to say the least. He's better than Torres, and although Torres is a big game performer, they need someone to offer some power in the final third and none of their strikers have that

[dww]

Comment: Jose Mourinho was brought back to Chelsea to win, not nurture 'eggs'

The Blues are on a run of three consecutive defeats following their surprise loss to Basle



The romance of Jose Mourinho’s return to Chelsea has met the corrective force of reality’s iron boot. In their next engagement, Saturday’s home match with Fulham, Chelsea are seeking to end a run of three consecutive defeats, even if one of those was on penalties to Bayern Munich.

Mourinho has thus far failed to establish a pattern of play that any can fathom, his transfer policy looks reactionary and haphazard and, critically, he has lost the most vital knack of all, winning.

In his first coming, Mourinho backed his enigmatic outpourings with results. Talk of eggs needing a mother is fine when you are winning. When you are losing they sound like excuses. Roman Abramovic brought Mourinho back to win, not nurture.

There is no scope for the sympathetic recycling of teams in the Champions League or the Premier League. This must happen seamlessly. The imperative is always three points. Progression is measured in silverware. And it can’t be gradual.

The decision to allow Romelu Lukaku and Victor Moses to leave on loan looks rash in the context of what we are seeing. His declarations of happiness with a forward line that includes a light scoring, utterly reduced Fernando Torres, the lightly regarded Djemba Ba and the outrageous punt that is off-the-pace 32-year-old, Samuel Eto’o, border on madness.

The oversupply of gifted midfielders, augmented by the transfer deadline theft of Willian from Spurs, is a structural two-fingers to Mourinho’s avowed preference for small, manageable squads. Chelsea’s dependence on John Terry, Frank Lampard, Ashley Cole and Peter Cech, players who were at the heart of his great team eight years ago, point to more fundamental problems.

Chelsea’s last win was a month ago at home to Aston Villa, and they were fortunate to edge that. Beyond that, the opening day canter against a deferential Hull represents their only other success. You would not back them to beat Hull this weekend.

Where once there was no embarrassment attached to his hubris, now his anointment as the Special One is the butt of semantic manipulation. Thus he migrates through a series of redactions to the Happy One, the Hopeful One. How long before he becomes the Desperate One or even worse, the Superfluous One.

Mourinho’s judgment and his credibility are suddenly on the line in a way he never imagined when he resurrected his Stamford Bridge love affair. The long stride of Abramovic down the tunnel after last night’s defeat to Basel, sent its own potent message.

This is the worst start to a season since Abramovic acquired the club, and Chelsea’s first home defeat in the group stage of the Champions League in almost ten years. The practiced insouciance in the face of awkward questions will not wash for much longer. We are about to discover how special Mourinho really is, and how patient the owner.

http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/f...s-8826787.html

Far too early to judge him but it would be great if the scenario plays out as it is at the minute with Mourinho as the worst choice of manager given their current squad. He's never been one to nurture young players and now his squad is packed full of them - there was par of me that always thought it was an unlikely marriage to work. Still he is a good manager, and it is a talented squad. Gotta hope that isn't enough though

[Robbie-9-Fowler]

Funny how things go. I had them nailed on to walk the league, based on their creative players and the belief that Mourinho would promote Lukaku who is more in the Drogba mold than Drogba himself

I never bought into it to be honest, I thought they'd be up their if they managed to get Rooney but without him they're just too weak and United are too strong, regardless of Moyes.

[-V-]

He's a strange little man. Lukaku was his best player in pre-season and he goes and let him go and replaced him with a striker who has been **** for about 3 years

[Assassin]

He's a strange little man. Lukaku was his best player in pre-season and he goes and let him go and replaced him with a striker who has been **** for about 3 years

You are being to kind here V. He is a dumb****!

[baitman]

Iv got a strong feeling the 'special ones' return is all going to end in tears. And i will love it!

it would be great. yeh

[knockers]

I think Maurine gave Lukaku the chop after the super cup pen miss. He looked shot after that miss and the manager didn't back him, he packed him off. That's the famous man management right there.

[Arn]

I think Maurine gave Lukaku the chop after the super cup pen miss. He looked shot after that miss and the manager didn't back him, he packed him off. That's the famous man management right there.

Doubt that. He probably loaned out Moses and Lukaku so they wouldn't moan after a couple of months because of the lack of playing time.