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    Don't understand why he's playing Meireles and not Lampard, neither is really the future of Chelsea, so i don't see why he favours Meireles, he gives them so much less imo, no goals, no tackles for starters.

    Odd imo.

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      Originally posted by Vermilion View Post
      Don't understand why he's playing Meireles and not Lampard, neither is really the future of Chelsea, so i don't see why he favours Meireles, he gives them so much less imo, no goals, no tackles for starters.

      Odd imo.
      yeah, he's a real passenger in the middle of the park.

      was shown up in certain games for us last season but not to this extent, especially in a centre mid of 2, and not 3.

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        Originally posted by Vermilion View Post
        Don't understand why he's playing Meireles and not Lampard, neither is really the future of Chelsea, so i don't see why he favours Meireles, he gives them so much less imo, no goals, no tackles for starters.

        Odd imo.
        I'd play Meireles over Lampard every day of the week. However playing Meireles in a holding role is stupid. They really need a fully fit Essien.
        We come not to play.

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          Originally posted by Roger View Post
          yeah, he's a real passenger in the middle of the park.

          was shown up in certain games for us last season but not to this extent, especially in a centre mid of 2, and not 3.
          ABC is well out of his depth, his voice is even getting huskier and rougher by the day

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            Originally posted by Imy View Post
            I'd play Meireles over Lampard every day of the week. However playing Meireles in a holding role is stupid. They really need a fully fit Essien.
            you honestly think meireles is better than lampard?

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              Originally posted by Imy View Post
              I'd play Meireles over Lampard every day of the week. However playing Meireles in a holding role is stupid. They really need a fully fit Essien.
              I wouldn't, he doesn't retain possession when it's needed, doesn't tackle, and doesn't score goals, Lampard atleast gives them two of those.

              He is certainly not a player i would want on the field with me when the chips are down, and your in a battle or trying to dig yourself out of a hole as Chelsea are.
              Last edited by Vermilion; 21-02-12, 11:55 PM.

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                Originally posted by Roger View Post
                you honestly think meireles is better than lampard?
                Yes

                Originally posted by Vermilion View Post
                I wouldn't, he doesn't retain possession when it's needed, doesn't tackle, and doesn't score goals, Lampard atleast gives them two of those.

                He is certainly not a player i would want on the field with me when the chips are down, and your in a battle or trying to dig yourself out of a hole as Chelsea are.
                Lampard no longer scores goals, both are similar in terms of tackling and keeping possession.

                Meireles at least has some loyalty to AVB and links fairly well with Mata (and Torres) Lampard on the other hand...
                We come not to play.

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                  Originally posted by Imy View Post
                  Lampard no longer scores goals
                  He's got 11 this season! Though as usual there will be a few pens in there but he's got some vital goals like their winner at Wolves, winner at home to Sunderland, winner at Blackburn. He's lightyears ahead of Meireles.

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                    Originally posted by Imy View Post
                    Yes



                    Lampard no longer scores goals, both are similar in terms of tackling and keeping possession.

                    Meireles at least has some loyalty to AVB and links fairly well with Mata (and Torres) Lampard on the other hand...
                    lampard no longer scores goals? he has 11 in 29 this season.

                    meireles has 2 in 26.

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                      Originally posted by Roger View Post
                      lampard no longer scores goals? he has 11 in 29 this season.

                      meireles has 2 in 26.
                      He's scored 10 last year where he was a regular.

                      Also Meireles doesn't take pens or the direct freekicks.
                      We come not to play.

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                        Originally posted by Imy View Post
                        He's scored 10 last year where he was a regular.
                        10 in 23 league games is pretty damn good. 19 goals in his last 45 league appearances, thats bloody excellent!

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                          Originally posted by Imy View Post
                          He's scored 10 last year where he was a regular.

                          Also Meireles doesn't take pens or the direct freekicks.
                          13 in 32 last season, 27 in 51 the season before that, and 20 in 57 the season before that.

                          pretty awesome goalscoring return for a midfield player whether he hits all the free kicks and penalties or not.

                          and i wonder why he's on the free kick and penno's duties? probably because he's been consistently one of most productive midfielders of his generation.

                          even comparing him with meireles is laughable.

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                            Originally posted by Roger View Post
                            13 in 32 last season, 27 in 51 the season before that, and 20 in 57 the season before that.

                            pretty awesome goalscoring return for a midfield player whether he hits all the free kicks and penalties or not.

                            and i wonder why he's on the free kick and penno's duties? probably because he's been consistently one of most productive midfielders of his generation.

                            even comparing him with meireles is laughable.
                            We're comparing todays Lampard with Meireles. It's like comparing Agger with Carra, both excellent but which one would you want in your team today?

                            Has Lampard still got the legs? has he still got that control, has he still got that motivation? On top of that is he one of the 'senior players' contradicting the manager?
                            We come not to play.

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                              Originally posted by Imy View Post
                              We're comparing todays Lampard with Meireles. It's like comparing Agger with Carra, both excellent but which one would you want in your team today?

                              Has Lampard still got the legs? has he still got that control, has he still got that motivation? On top of that is he one of the 'senior players' contradicting the manager?
                              Yeah but that's come about by the manager not playing him and Chelsea winning only one in the last 6 games.

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                                Originally posted by Vermilion View Post
                                Yeah but that's come about by the manager not playing him and Chelsea winning only one in the last 6 games.
                                The way Chelsea play is very different to how AVB's Porto played in fact they've changed the way they play from how he lined them up at the beginning of the season.

                                Too many Chelsea players are used to only playing one system, too many are stuck in a rut, too many have to much power in the dressing room and are undermining the manager (like what happened to Rafa if reports are to be believed).

                                If i was Roman, i'd back AVB and start shipping out some of the senior players. Give him the cash to build his team (like what Mourinho had).

                                To be fair though long may this Chelsea misfire continue from a LFC prospective
                                We come not to play.

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