Good God. That's quite remarkable to say the least.
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Interesting story about the Spurs fan sitting near where Muamba collapsed who happened to be a cardiologist. Talked his way onto the pitch, helped oversee the paramedics then went with him in the ambulance to the specialist Barts hospital where he happened to work. Not you’re average match day experience. So take a bow Dr Andrew Deaner from the Lower East Stand, White Hart Lane.
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Really is an extraordinary incident. To be shocked 15 times is very very rare, the reason been, there are only two heart rhythms that can be shocked which are ventricular fibrillation and pulseless ventricular tachycardia. In the vast majority of cases Iv seen after several shocks (4-7) the heart usually goes into a "normal-ish" rhythm like a sinus rhythm or aystole (flatlined) the most common and an un-shockable rhythm where CPR would continue to positive outcome of 4-7% hence why I said it is very very rare that you get the opportunity to shock the heart 15 times. The key in this case was quick and effective CPR which kept all the major organs like the brain perfused. But after 15 shocks the heart will not fully recover to what it was before arrest, it's what we call fried heart! But it's better to be alive with a damaged heart than be dead with one. One other thing, had this been a spectator the chances are they would have been taking to the nearest A+E and then possible transported to a specialist heart centre IF they survived the initial arrest. Fabrice was taken straight to a heart specialist centre. Normal hearts don't usually just stop in fit and healthy adults, he will have a long long recovery ahead and will possibly need open heart surgery at some stage for correction.
Like I said it's an amazing case, he is beyond lucky to be alive.
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Bloody new age hocus pocusOriginally posted by kingfunk View PostReally is an extraordinary incident. To be shocked 15 times is very very rare, the reason been, there are only two heart rhythms that can be shocked which are ventricular fibrillation and pulseless ventricular tachycardia. In the vast majority of cases Iv seen after several shocks (4-7) the heart usually goes into a "normal-ish" rhythm like a sinus rhythm or aystole (flatlined) the most common and an un-shockable rhythm where CPR would continue to positive outcome of 4-7% hence why I said it is very very rare that you get the opportunity to shock the heart 15 times. The key in this case was quick and effective CPR which kept all the major organs like the brain perfused. But after 15 shocks the heart will not fully recover to what it was before arrest, it's what we call fried heart! But it's better to be alive with a damaged heart than be dead with one. One other thing, had this been a spectator the chances are they would have been taking to the nearest A+E and then possible transported to a specialist heart centre IF they survived the initial arrest. Fabrice was taken straight to a heart specialist centre. Normal hearts don't usually just stop in fit and healthy adults, he will have a long long recovery ahead and will possibly need open heart surgery at some stage for correction.
Like I said it's an amazing case, he is beyond lucky to be alive.
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Aye absolutely amazingOriginally posted by focusedonfootball View PostInteresting story about the Spurs fan sitting near where Muamba collapsed who happened to be a cardiologist. Talked his way onto the pitch, helped oversee the paramedics then went with him in the ambulance to the specialist Barts hospital where he happened to work. Not you’re average match day experience. So take a bow Dr Andrew Deaner from the Lower East Stand, White Hart Lane.
I have to say, it's a credit to doctors and people in the medical field for what they (can) do and how they do it. My very best friend works as an anaesthetist at the world-famous Heidelberg Clinic, the things he tells me, how those guys work, under which pressure they work, they have people coming in, literally ****ed, dead, blood everywhere (in some cases), how they work like clockwork, he says 'It's a machine drum, I give IVs, they're off into the operating room, I oversee the drug intake, the doctors are there, they operate under extreme pressure, time is crucial, they finish the operation, bam, cleaners are in, clean the operating room, bam, next, pure focus'. And how these people work their socks off is a credit to humanity!Originally posted by colin85 View Post


Hats off to all involved to make sure this didn't end up in a Foe situation. Although Muamba is still recovering and we don't know what'll happen next, that he stayed 78 minutes without a heartbeat or oxygen just show how far the human organism can stretch and fight and stay alive.
Go humanoids!!! 

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