Andy Carroll

[Chris]

No, you're right. Danny Graham is far more like David Villa isn't he.

And Downing has made a career out of mediocrity (one which he is moving towards the end of). Carroll hasn't and he demonstrated real improvement towards the end of the season. The circumstances are entirely different.

Well the running on to the through ball to hammer home the winner v Arsenal for Swansea was far more Villa like than Carroll like yeah.

[baronvonskidmark]

Absolutely. Getting rid of Carroll (especially without having ever seen him train in person) is madness. Having played a Carroll-lite type at Swansea for all last year the idea that Andy won't fit the system seems to just be the most convenient excuse. No wonder he's absolutely livid.

But surely there is no reason for anyone to be making excuses. No one needs to be making excuses for Rodgers' decisions, and indeed Rodgers does not need anyone making excuses for him. Personally I can just see the logic behind his decision - but I'm not making excuses for what he deems the best course of action.

[Lecter]

I don't have any sympathy for Andy Carroll, he's been very fortunate and I'm sure he will do well wherever he goes. Seems like a decent bloke, but as many have stated he just isn't suited to our intended style of play. There's no point keeping hold of him and using him occasionally, that's a waste of his ability and wages that could be better spent. He never really seemed to be a good fit for us, let's get rid whilst his value is reasonably high.

I think getting rid of him is going to be easier said than done though

[Mostar]

I'd have no problem with it if Rodgers had said differently

However he stated that every player would get a chance to show themselves and that should include Downing & Carroll

Yet hes ****ing Carroll off without even looking at him

No wonder the lads pissed off

He deserves the chance to prove himself.

There were tons and tons of signs late in the season and at Euros that Andy finally started believing in himself and got the confidence back.

And what do we do, we throw all that away by publically stating we would entertain the loan/sale idea without even trying to fit him in the system when Rodgers openly said all players will get the chance.

Clearly not all..

[Lecter]

He deserves the chance to prove himself.

There were tons and tons of signs late in the season and at Euros that Andy finally started believing in himself and got the confidence back.

And what do we do, we throw all that away by publically stating we would entertain the loan/sale idea without even trying to fit him in the system when Rodgers openly said all players will get the chance.

Clearly not all..

I think the club has mis-managed this one once again

This will cost the club imo big style

[Mostar]

I think the club has mis-managed this one once again

This will cost the club imo big style

[Tee]

Who knows what is happening behind the scenes. Maybe FSG have told BR he needs to bring in some money before we can buy again.

Agree that AC should be given a chance at least, and could at the very least still be used as an impact sub next season.

[Bender]

Who knows what is happening behind the scenes. Maybe FSG have told BR he needs to bring in some money before we can buy again.

Agree that AC should be given a chance at least, and could at the very least still be used as an impact sub next season.

yes this is what i read yesterday can't remember where

[Bender]

I think the club has mis-managed this one once again

This will cost the club imo big style

it already did and has when we bought him .....if were not keeping him it's better to trade him for cash and players

[Lecter]

it already did and has when we bought him .....if were not keeping him it's better to trade him for cash and players

Aye its better to trade for cash and players but this assumes a willingness for Carroll to go on either loan or on a permanent transfer

I dont believe the willingness to depart is there from Carroll and as such we are going to have to give financial incentives for him to go

[Kenneth]

I think the club has mis-managed this one once again

This will cost the club imo big style

Zzzzzz. Just put that as you signature, save yourself a lot of time. Add something about Ayer being a **** and you're completely covered.

[Lecter]

Zzzzzz. Just put that as you signature, save yourself a lot of time. Add something about Ayer being a **** and you're completely covered.

Who is Ayer??

[Rigadon]

We paid £35m on the basis of one good season in the PL. In a season and a half with Liverpool, Carroll has (unfortunately) done nothing to justify half of that fee.

There are far cheaper 'impact subs' on the market.

[Tee]

We paid £35m on the basis of one good season in the PL. In a season and a half with Liverpool, Carroll has (unfortunately) done nothing to justify half of that fee.

There are far cheaper 'impact subs' on the market.

Such as?

[BigChief]

Who knows what is happening behind the scenes. Maybe FSG have told BR he needs to bring in some money before we can buy again.
Agree that AC should be given a chance at least, and could at the very least still be used as an impact sub next season.

I don't get why people don't get this. Unless Carroll is threatening to become the next Ian Rush in 6 months for Brendan Rodgers to 'see if he's worth keeping' then I would hazard Bredan has seen more of Carroll last year than any Liverpool fan (and that includes Mostar).

FSG + release of funds + Rodgers knows his **** = Carroll out now. You don't even need parenthesis to work this one out.

Coming up next week: Brendan puts his left shoe on before his right. In a clear statement to his wife on their wedding night he said he would always put the right boot on first, but within weeks he reneged on his promises.