Andy Carroll

[Lecter]

Sell him please Rodgers. Don't want him hanging about if he ain't playing. He is on a massive wage that we don't need right now.

On that basis Cole & Aquilani should be kicked into touch immediately also

[Mattshark]

On that basis Cole & Aquilani should be kicked into touch immediately also

Unless he wants to actually play those players (both of whom are significantly better than Carroll for the team).

[DannyMan2006]

On that basis Cole & Aquilani should be kicked into touch immediately also

Why do you assume he is keeping them, or even assume they won't play? Pure guesswork on this Lec. I agree with most you say but think you're blinkered on the issue of Carroll. I can't for the life of me see why.

I know BobTheCharmer will moan at everything as he's just crying about the sacking of Dalglish, but I suspect you'd see the bigger picture.

[dizzycat]

Given that Carroll could probably guarantee league survival for some teams I think that a 17m plus deal is not out of the question. If he's a goner at Anfield a lot of teams will want him.

[kris90210]

I never said Rodgers should be forced to keep anyone

However I dont see much if any financial incentives from selling him, they will be minimal to say the least

Which comes around to the point of being able to afford and attract players

I think we will struggle on that score at this moment in time - with or without the sale of Andy Carroll

What do you mean by 'financial incentives?' Surely there's around 15 million 'incentives' for selling a player the manager clearly doesn't see a future for. Not to mention his rather large wages.

If we don't sell him, will his value decrease further? I'd say that's likely.

I think the arguments for getting rid are far, far stronger than the ones for him to stay. If Rodgers doesn't see him fitting the system, then that's that really isn't it.

[kris90210]

Given that Carroll could probably guarantee league survival for some teams I think that a 17m plus deal is not out of the question. If he's a goner at Anfield a lot of teams will want him.

That's true. There's bound to be a few Premiership managers convinced that they can get the best out of Andy Carroll. I think he'll go, and I reckon we'll get between 15 and 20 million for him.

[Lecter]

Unless he wants to actually play those players (both of whom are significantly better than Carroll for the team).

I struggle to see how either of them will be more than bit part players

Cole is vastly overrated anyway and I think he is actually the anti-thesis of Rodgers style of football

He holds on to the ball too long and "guilds the lily" far too much

For a player supposedly earning 30% more than Carroll is in wages its hard to justify keeping him as a bit part player also

As for Aquilani he wants back to Italy and I've no doubt the club will facilitate this sooner or later

I hope we get rid of both of them two before Carroll

[markwilfrey]

I find it really odd if Rodgers is really going to put Carrol out to pasture?
Are the Liverpool owneres about to buy Inesta?isTorres coming back? or maybe they are going for Renaldo? I sincererly doubt it.
as it stands currently Liverpool are at best a mid table PL team.they need some really top notch players to get anywhere near the top 4 or 5

[Mattshark]

I find it really odd if Rodgers is really going to put Carrol out to pasture?
Are the Liverpool owneres about to buy Inesta?isTorres coming back? or maybe they are going for Renaldo? I sincererly doubt it.
as it stands currently Liverpool are at best a mid table PL team.they need some really top notch players to get anywhere near the top 4 or 5

So why is it surprising if we get rid of Carroll?

[kris90210]

I struggle to see how either of them will be more than bit part players

Cole is vastly overrated anyway and I think he is actually the anti-thesis of Rodgers style of football

He holds on to the ball too long and "guilds the lily" far too much

For a player supposedly earning 30% more than Carroll is in wages its hard to justify keeping him as a bit part player also

As for Aquilani he wants back to Italy and I've no doubt the club will facilitate this sooner or later

I hope we get rid of both of them two before Carroll

Both Cole and Aquilani are technical players who 'could' possibly fit the system, which is probably why Rodgers wants to take a closer look at them. I don't think Carroll has the touch or technique required to play in Rodgers' system - and I think that's why he wants shot of him.

[Kenneth]

I find it really odd if Rodgers is really going to put Carrol out to pasture?
Are the Liverpool owneres about to buy Inesta?isTorres coming back? or maybe they are going for Renaldo? I sincererly doubt it.
as it stands currently Liverpool are at best a mid table PL team.they need some really top notch players to get anywhere near the top 4 or 5

I don't understand your point.

[dom9]

I never said Rodgers should be forced to keep anyone

However I dont see much if any financial incentives from selling him, they will be minimal to say the least

Which comes around to the point of being able to afford and attract players

I think we will struggle on that score at this moment in time - with or without the sale of Andy Carroll

Sell him then. He makes no difference. He is ineffectual. Neutral. A blank. A busted flush. A non-entity. A waste of space. A lamp post without a bulb. A jaffa. A blunt instrument. A ganglian.

[Gibbo]

What worries me is that we seemingly have to sell to buy, that is not a situation i wanted us to be in, shows exactly how damaging to us last summer was, I said at the time that it would be the window that defined out immediate future and we ****ed it.

[Vermilion]

It's going to be interesting to see how many goals he gets for the side he ends up at anyway, in comparison to our strikers.

[Lecter]

What do you mean by 'financial incentives?' Surely there's around 15 million 'incentives' for selling a player the manager clearly doesn't see a future for. Not to mention his rather large wages.

If we don't sell him, will his value decrease further? I'd say that's likely.

I think the arguments for getting rid are far, far stronger than the ones for him to stay. If Rodgers doesn't see him fitting the system, then that's that really isn't it.

Why do people solely look at fees and fees alone

I mean yes we might earn £15 million at a stretch but there is no doubt we will have to pay off a sizeable proportion of his remaining contract

Considering hes on upwards of £75K per week by all accounts then this is over £15.6 million in wages remaining on his contract

Obviously we wont have to pay that much out but in the past we have paid off huge sums of money to get rid of people (Jovanovic for one)

Its apparent the lad doesnt want to leave so I expect negotiations on any particular pay off will be difficult and more than likely expensive