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  • red g
    • Jul 2006
    • 29964

    #1921
    Originally posted by Bender
    what the one of my very good posts[not too many of them] has just been deleted
    The *******s!! It should have been framed !
    _____________________________________

    Weak willed, Wank or do they have a masterplan?

    Think we have the answer..Slot!!

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    • Corndog
      Dalglish
      • Aug 2011
      • 2855

      #1922
      Hodgson has done nothing to improve England, in fact their performance at the Euros was a joke, even more so than the last WC imo.

      People will point to how Hodgson did not have alot of time to prepare for the euros and he didn't but the way they approached that game against Italy was truly pathetic even in the circumstances.

      Capello was and is a much better coach imo, didn't he lead them very well in qualifying for south africa???? before the inevitable happened and they choked under pressure at the actual tournament. Hodgson is yet to accomplish that so im not sure how he is any better than his recent predecessors.

      The stricter autocratic management of capello has been hinted at as an excuse for them not performing, but thats all it is, i don't think they will go any better because hodgson is percieved to be more laid back, and while he may speak the english language naturally, he does not use it very well, at least not in interviews.

      England will probably get to Brazil in 2014 and for a while some may percieve a slither of hope/progress but like usual it will most likely be crushed at the round of 16 or quarter final stages, Hodgson will be sacked, journalists who once tried to find optimism in his approach to the game will slate his tactics, the wolves will be out for any ageing english player, and then finally people will start to come out and say the key is to overhaul how youngsters are developed in England as part of a longer term grass roots strategy, before once again building optimism about the appointment of a successor who is strong where hodgson was weak and will succeed where he failed at euro 2016. and so the cycle continues.

      Hodgson works as a coach at mid table premierleague teams like fulham or west brom, i'm not convinced he will ever improve England.

      At least thats my two cents (if its even worth that )
      Y.N.W.A!!!!!!

      "There are two great teams on Merseyside; Liverpool and Liverpool Reserves." - Bill Shankly

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      • Bender
        Hodgsoned
        • Jul 2006
        • 37671

        #1923
        Originally posted by red g
        The *******s!! It should have been framed !

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        • Fernandinho
          Where the bloody hell are ya?
          • Mar 2010
          • 8558

          #1924
          Spot on I might add, if England ever do properly overhaul the youth system with an influx in trained coaches they might actually break the cycle within the next few generations, with the sheer number of players from there, they are bound to put together a team one day.
          96 Never Forgotten

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          • Neil Young
            Prosecco Socialist
            • Aug 2006
            • 62564

            #1925
            Originally posted by lil_luis_07
            Hodgson has done nothing to improve England, in fact their performance at the Euros was a joke, even more so than the last WC imo.

            People will point to how Hodgson did not have alot of time to prepare for the euros and he didn't but the way they approached that game against Italy was truly pathetic even in the circumstances.

            Capello was and is a much better coach imo, didn't he lead them very well in qualifying for south africa???? before the inevitable happened and they choked under pressure at the actual tournament. Hodgson is yet to accomplish that so im not sure how he is any better than his recent predecessors.

            The stricter autocratic management of capello has been hinted at as an excuse for them not performing, but thats all it is, i don't think they will go any better because hodgson is percieved to be more laid back, and while he may speak the english language naturally, he does not use it very well, at least not in interviews.

            England will probably get to Brazil in 2014 and for a while some may percieve a slither of hope/progress but like usual it will most likely be crushed at the round of 16 or quarter final stages, Hodgson will be sacked, journalists who once tried to find optimism in his approach to the game will slate his tactics, the wolves will be out for any ageing english player, and then finally people will start to come out and say the key is to overhaul how youngsters are developed in England as part of a longer term grass roots strategy, before once again building optimism about the appointment of a successor who is strong where hodgson was weak and will succeed where he failed at euro 2016. and so the cycle continues.

            Hodgson works as a coach at mid table premierleague teams like fulham or west brom, i'm not convinced he will ever improve England.

            At least thats my two cents (if its even worth that )
            Although England aren't much more than a mid-table team so arguably that's appropriate.

            I totally agree about the poor performance in Euro 2012. Thanks to Capello's leadership, England were seeded in the top four yet didn't make the semi-finals. They didn't even win their group!

            He clearly has a worse record in competitive games than Capello - the only defence is that it's still relatively early days. I'm not expecting much improvement though.

            And if England don't win their group then the case against will be irrefutable.
            Last edited by Neil Young; 10-02-13, 11:52 AM.
            .
            Suppose you have a physicist and a sociologist standing at the side of a field, observing a set of events unfolding on the field. The physicist does [describes] it using the terminology of mass and velocity and frequency of radiation and the rest. And the sociologist does it by describing it as a rugby match.



            May the Lord bless this post.

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            • dom9
              Ant Pisser
              • Aug 2006
              • 69014

              #1926
              Originally posted by Neil Young
              Although England aren't much more than a mid-table team so arguably that's appropriate.

              I totally agree about the poor performance in Euro 2012. Thanks to Capello's leadership, England were seeded in the top four yet didn't make the semi-finals. They didn't even win their group!

              He clearly has a worse record in competitive games than Capello - the only defence is that it's still relatively early days. I'm not expecting much improvement though.

              And if England don't win their group then the case against will be irrefutable.
              Oh I don't know.

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              • Chazza
                Des Lynam
                • Jan 2007
                • 31141

                #1927
                West Brom's Ben Foster says the more relaxed atmosphere under Roy Hodgson contributed to the keeper's decision to end his international exile.

                He revealed last week he is once more available for selection, having quit England duty in Fabio Capello's reign.

                "It was very, very serious with Fabio Capello," said Foster, 29. "From talking to a few of the lads, since Roy took over he's so much more relaxed. Under Fabio it seemed to be a little bit too negative."

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                • Reece
                  • Jul 2006
                  • 77604

                  #1928
                  As long as the players can relax and not take playing for their country seriously. Wouldn't want them to have to do that eh.

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                  • Muddled
                    Meat Shield
                    • Jul 2010
                    • 25665

                    #1929
                    Negative atmosphere, but get results or positive atmosphere and ****e football?

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                    • RedReet
                      Fantasy Football Champion
                      • Dec 2006
                      • 25265

                      #1930
                      Originally posted by Chazza
                      West Brom's Ben Foster says the more relaxed atmosphere under Roy Hodgson contributed to the keeper's decision to end his international exile.

                      He revealed last week he is once more available for selection, having quit England duty in Fabio Capello's reign.

                      "It was very, very serious with Fabio Capello," said Foster, 29. "From talking to a few of the lads, since Roy took over he's so much more relaxed. Under Fabio it seemed to be a little bit too negative.
                      What a relief.

                      What next...

                      WeeJay87 JaySpearing

                      I'm fit and available for selection Roy
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                      If we are all only happy when we are really winning in the end, when your race finishes, what life would that be?

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                      • Chazza
                        Des Lynam
                        • Jan 2007
                        • 31141

                        #1931
                        ****ing state of this squad

                        Goalkeepers: Ben Foster, Joe Hart, Fraser Forster.

                        Defenders: Leighton Baines, Gary Cahill, Ashley Cole, Michael Dawson, Rio Ferdinand, Glen Johnson, Chris Smalling, Kyle Walker.

                        Midfielders: Michael Carrick, Tom Cleverley, Steven Gerrard, Frank Lampard, Aaron Lennon, James Milner, Leon Osman, Scott Parker, Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain, Theo Walcott, Ashley Young.

                        Strikers: Jermain Defoe, Wayne Rooney, Daniel Sturridge, Danny Welbeck.

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                        • Cormack74
                          Paisley
                          • Jan 2007
                          • 10533

                          #1932
                          No Downing. Compared to some of the **** that Woy's picked and on current form he's probably been a bit unlucky.

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                          • RichC
                            Meh
                            • Jul 2006
                            • 37415

                            #1933
                            I agree but the fewer players from Anfield playing for him the better

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                            • Alex
                              Administrator
                              • Jul 2006
                              • 37058

                              #1934
                              On current form he is better than maybe 6 of that midfield.
                              *Except Michael, who died.

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                              • Neil Young
                                Prosecco Socialist
                                • Aug 2006
                                • 62564

                                #1935
                                Originally posted by Chazza
                                ****ing state of this squad
                                .
                                Suppose you have a physicist and a sociologist standing at the side of a field, observing a set of events unfolding on the field. The physicist does [describes] it using the terminology of mass and velocity and frequency of radiation and the rest. And the sociologist does it by describing it as a rugby match.



                                May the Lord bless this post.

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