Hodgson - I dont know why I'm here; smint?

[Saveloy]

I'll move under the sea if that cunt gets it.

Not my first choice of safe haven but I get your thinking.

[Muddled]

Redknapp was 25/1 yesterday.

I'm all over that.

A good shout. He's currently juggling random jobs and there is really nobody else. He'll get backed in the media and was close before Roy was appointed too.

Worth a tenner.

Edit: He's down to 10/1 now. Emily Heskey is 100/1 in what is a very odd list.

A list that obviously includes Alan Curbishley.

Im hoping for pardew

It's not the first thing you're wrong about and it won't be the last.

[fah-q]

It looked OK in the little mermaid.

[Fivex]

Got a fiver on fat head Bruce

[fah-q]

The sea that is

[Saveloy]

The sea that is

The start of the waterbabies was quite creepy though.

[redmike65]

Saw someone suggest Paul Clement who would at least be a bit left-field

[Exiled_red]

I don't believe that. England will never be world beaters but they'd be better than they have been in the last two tournaments with a manager with a coherent plan, who picked and played players according to that plan.

True but that isn't setting the bar that high.

Since Italia 90 England have had 8 managers and have qualified for 11 tournaments and in those tournaments their record is:

Played 44 Won 16 Drawn 18* Lost 10
* includes 1 win and 4 defeats on penalties

If you look at their record in the knockout stages:
Played 11 Won 2 Drawn 6 Lost 3

As these ties are knock out games you need to correct the drawn games to wins or losses on penalties as ultimately the only thing that matters is whether you go though or go out taking this into account:
Played 11 Won 3 Lost 8
The 3 wins being:
- win on pens after a 0-0 draw with Spain in Euro 96
- 3-0 win against Denmark in WC 2002
- 1-0 win against Ecuador in WC 2006

EDIT: in fact you could go back to 1968 and the number of wins in the knockout stage would only increase to 6 from 18 tournaments.

Regardless of the manager or the players there is a consistent record of failure, and every tournament they go in with unrealistic expectations. You can make various justifications or excuses; too many games in the season, the heat, bad luck ... The team is able to look good in qualifying and varying levels of success in the group stages (recently they have scraped through despite some fairly easy groups on paper, they just aren't able to compete in high pressure games, maybe because they don't play enough meaningful games against decent sides, maybe they don't play the correct way or play together enough, maybe they don't really care enough about international football maybe the players aren't good enough or maybe they are just mentally weak. Who knows, but I doubt that any of the managers linked with the jobs will make a difference. I could be wrong I guess only time will tell.

[Exiled_red]

Sounds like Southgate might not want the job

https://www.theguardian.com/football...n-with-england

I can't say I blame him, it seems like a job that would be career suicide for a manager who doesn't already have an established reputation

[Roboklopp]

Underling is what you'd be

No room under your bulbous trampoline of a belly.

[leo]

Glen Hoddle over Pardew, Allardyce or Sherwood?

[Exiled_red]

How come Hoddle is one of the front runners? Has he even had a management job in the last 10 years?

[Fivex]

Chris Waddle's fault

[Phoenix07]

How come Hoddle is one of the front runners? Has he even had a management job in the last 10 years?

A stop gap, that's all. If Southgate doesn't want it on a temporary basis, then who else would? Redknapp?

[Alex]

Why do they need a temporary manager? Next game isn't until August.