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    France V England Match Thread

    Why not eh?

    France v England preview
    Hodgson's men the underdogs against Blanc's in-form team

    Last updated: 11th June 2012

    England's Euro 2012 campaign finally gets underway against Group D favourites France in Donetsk on Monday.

    Roy Hodgson's men have endured an injury-hit build-up the tournament with four players withdrawing from the squad since it was announced last month.

    But the England boss has confirmed there are no further fitness concerns in the camp and the team are raring to go amid an atmosphere of scaled-back expectations going into this competition.

    A key reason for that, as well as the high-profile withdrawals and omissions, is the absence of Wayne Rooney for this game as he serves the first of a two-game suspension for his red card in Montenegro last year.

    And the rest of the team will need to be near their best given that the Three Lions start as underdogs against Laurent Blanc's side.

    France are unbeaten in 21 games under Blanc and will be looking to erase memories of the shambles that occurred under Raymond Domenech at the World Cup two years ago.

    Les Bleus finished bottom of their group with the team in disgrace after boycotting training in South Africa but French supporters may prefer to look back to the memory of when these sides met in 2004.

    France won in the sides' opening game of Euro 2004 despite being behind when the clock struck ninety minutes.

    That tournament was England's last taste of European Championship action until this game. The so-called Golden Generation are all but gone. But Hodgson will be hoping that could yet work in England's favour.

    Team news

    England's only guaranteed absentee is Rooney through suspension with several key players having shaken off problems.

    John Terry and Ashley Cole were slight concerns over the weekend but the Chelseapair look set to take their place in the team.

    Terry is likely to operate on the right of the two central defenders rather than his favoured left in order to accommodate Joleon Lescott.
    Danny Welbeck seems to have fought off the challenge of Andy Carroll for the lone striker role so Hodgson's biggest dilemma will be who to play in the wide positions.

    Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain pressed his claims for a chance in the warm-up games, while Theo Walcottwill be hoping to finally make his bow at a major tournament six years after failing to get off the bench at the 2006 World Cup.

    But the new England boss is likely to adopt a cautious approach and select the more defensively-minded wide-midfielders James Milner and Stewart Downing given a draw would be considered a positive result.

    France have a settled line-up with Blanc's only concern being in defence after Patrice Evra and Philippe Mexes failed to impress in recent weeks.

    Gael Clichy and Laurent Koscielny are pushing for starts but Blanc is expected to favour the more experienced duo for the group opener.

    Possible starting XIs
    France (4-2-3-1): Lloris; Debuchy, Rami, Mexes, Evra; M'Vila, Cabaye; Ribery, Nasri, Malouda; Benzema.

    England (4-4-1-1): Hart; Johnson, Terry, Lescott, Cole; Milner, Gerrard, Parker, Downing; Young; Welbeck.
    Everything I have read has given Wellbeck the nod over Carroll due to his pace in behind but if England are going to sit back then surely a player who can hold the ball up is a better option?

    I am not sure Downing will start ahead of Walcott either

    #2
    I think Milner and Downing are certain to start.

    I hope England get battered but if Carroll & Henderson are involved I want them to do well and shut up the pricks who've been on their case.
    Thanks very much for being ‘This Mornings’ Farmer’

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      #3
      Apparently Carroll is not starting which is a big mistake. Sorry I mean to say another big mistake.

      Only team england will beat is Ukraine

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        #4
        I was really ambivalent about England leading up to the tournament, especially with the whole Hodgson thing, but now it's started and I've watched the other teams I can't help but want us to do well. Inspite of Hodgson, Terry et al of course. It is a double edged sword though because if we do do well, Hodgson will be worshipped which will be sickening.

        I think there being so many Liverpool players in the squad is a big factor, as is Gerrard being captain.

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          #5
          I hope things go really, really ****........culminating in a magnificent face rub.
          "I will make the boys feel your support"
          Jurgen Klopp June 2020

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            #6
            Originally posted by Reece View Post
            I was really ambivalent about England leading up to the tournament, especially with the whole Hodgson thing, but now it's started and I've watched the other teams I can't help but want us to do well. Inspite of Hodgson, Terry et al of course. It is a double edged sword though because if we do do well, Hodgson will be worshipped which will be sickening.

            I think there being so many Liverpool players in the squad is a big factor, as is Gerrard being captain.
            I kinda know what you mean - I've softened slightly as the tournament has arrived. But think back to those cunts at the FA, the Suarez stitch up, Hodgson....****ing HODGSON, Terry etc.

            **** 'em.
            Thanks very much for being ‘This Mornings’ Farmer’

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              #7
              Originally posted by Shaggy View Post
              I kinda know what you mean - I've softened slightly as the tournament has arrived. But think back to those cunts at the FA, the Suarez stitch up, Hodgson....****ing HODGSON, Terry etc.

              **** 'em.
              I do understand that way of thinking/feeling - I just find it hard to want them to lose in an actual tournament setting.

              I think another factor is that most of my mates are big England fans so that rubs off on me to an extent.

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                #8
                I'm a bit gutted we've got so many players. They are on a hiding to nothing.
                Oh I don't know.

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                  #9
                  Uh, Carroll not starting? I transferred him into my fantasy team (well the telegraph one, not the one here)
                  Football without Origi is nothing

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                    #10
                    what does milner bring to the team. isnt he a bit poo.
                    removing all the weak links makes us stronger

                    too many gutless players, no beef or desire. pussies everywhere... sack them all.

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                      #11
                      part of me does want england to do well....however the hodgson factor and the fact england are usually ****e, well i don't think i'll lose any sleep if we are ****e

                      i'm expecting it to be dire as well - the whole atmosphere around england seems to be pretty low at the moment - not sure what it's like in other parts of the country but the build up here as been non-existent -

                      i remember so many previous tournaments where pubs, shops, cars, houses and people have gone england mad and world cup/euro fever has really been high.

                      this time round everyone just seems meh! - and thats the type of performance i expecting from england, very dogged, slow and boring - i expect we will just try and contain france and hope for some moment of magic to come from somewhere....

                      best thing to happen would be an early france goal to try and open it up a bit and force england into playing. Hopefully a Benzema goal for my fantasy football team


                      I reckon france will be 2-0 up, we will suddenly turn it up for the last 20 mins, pull one back and it will give the nation false hope and optimism with talk of "if we can play like we did for the last 10-15 mins from the start, we can beat anyone" - only to go and be dire and draw 1-1 with sweden
                      Last edited by PTP; 11-06-12, 12:08 PM.
                      i own everton fans on the internet....that's what i do

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                        #12
                        I'd settle for the Liverpool boys to play out of their skin and a couple of Terry/Jones cock ups to cost victories.

                        Redemption for them and face egg for Bodge
                        Football without Origi is nothing

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                          #13
                          Originally posted by baitman View Post
                          what does milner bring to the team. isnt he a bit poo.
                          He's obviously not the only one, but I agree.

                          I'm ambivalent to England, but nit a fan of France either. Would prefer an England win on the whole.
                          Trey Nyoni: countdown to stardom- 2 years 1year 0.5 years

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                            #14
                            Originally posted by ChesterDave View Post
                            I'd settle for the Liverpool boys to play out of their skin and a couple of Terry/Jones cock ups to cost victories.

                            Redemption for them and face egg for Bodge
                            A JT OG hat trick would beautiful.
                            Oh I don't know.

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                              #15
                              So how much possession will France have tonight 65% plus?

                              Also, I bet England don't put anymore than 5 passes together throughout the whole match (unless France are winning convincingly and allow England to pass it sideways along the back 4 a few times).

                              England will only score against the run of play with either a set piece or on the counter.

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