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    But Brendan Rodgers’ bid to sign the USA international faces competition from Everton and Aston Villa, who have both made recent enquiries to sign Dempsey.

    Liverpool are reluctant to meet Fulham’s asking price for the 29-year-old, even though the Londoners will settle for a fee of around £5-6million.

    Sources have told Goal.com that discussions have centred on the possibility of either Downing or Adam joining Fulham in part-exchange.

    Two of Fulham manager Martin Jol’s priorities are to sign a midfield playmaker to replace Danny Murphy and to add greater penetration to his side’s left flank.

    Adam could be surplus to requirements at Anfield if Liverpool manage to capture central midfield target Joe Allen from Swansea, while Rodgers is not believed to be convinced about Downing.

    Both players had disappointing debut campaigns on Merseyside after being signed in the summer of 2011, although Liverpool would not want to sell Downing, who cost around £20m, at a huge loss only 12 months later. They would be more comfortable off-loading Adam, who was a £7m arrival from Blackpool.

    It is understood that Dempsey is still some way from securing a switch to Anfield even though, as revealed by Goal.com on Monday, he has pulled out of Fulham’s pre-season training camp in Switzerland to try and force through a move to Merseyside.

    Dempsey told Jol last Friday that he did not want to take part in the week-long trip and he was left behind to train with the youth team in London as the first-team squad flew overseas on Monday morning.
    The 29-year-old has made it clear to Jol and senior Fulham figures that he wants to quit the club for Liverpool.

    As revealed by Goal.com earlier this month, the versatile forward, who scored 17 Premier League goals last season and 23 in all competitions, has rejected Fulham’s offer of a new three year-contract that includes an option for a fourth year.

    Despite Dempsey’s desire to quit Fulham, Liverpool have not yet made a formal offer for the USA international and, indeed, are not expected to try and sign him until Andy Carroll’s future is resolved.

    The Merseysiders could be pressed into action, however, following interest from Everton and Villa, even though neither club holds the same appeal for Dempsey.

    Everton manager David Moyes is a long-standing admirer of Dempsey, although he would need to raise funds by selling one of his prize assets, such as Manchester United target Leighton Baines.
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      Originally posted by SB View Post

      Id swap both of them for Dempsey just to get them off the books.

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        Originally posted by acdmackay View Post
        Id swap both of them for Dempsey just to get them off the books.
        Although i think Fulham value Dempsey more than 3million
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          Clint Dempsey | Statistically Compared to Top Strikers / Wide Forwards
          ■July 29, 2012 2:29 pm



          The story of Liverpool and Clint Dempsey has already become a bit of a saga and to be honest it’s not even really been that long since they were linked with him. With NESN (a channel/site that is also owned by those that are in charge at Liverpool) last week stating that Liverpool had signed Clint Dempsey and a rebuttal from Fulham stating no deal had been done the transfer has already been propelled to the back pages before there was anything really to report! That same day Liverpool and Brendan Rodgers then released the following statement confirming interest in Fulham’s Clint Dempsey:


          “Clint is a player we’ve enquired about, it is as simple as that, Ian Ayre, our managing director, has spoken with the club to see what the position is. That is where we’re at. He’s a very talented player but we don’t like to talk about other clubs’ players.”
          The first table below compares Clint Dempsey to strikers:




          As you can see in terms of comparing the shooting and chance conversion statistics there was really no way that Clint would be better than van Persie, Aguero or Rooney last season. However even though he comes off worst in three metrics overall – he betters Luis Suarez in four of them. His shooting accuracy, conversion rate and clear-cut conversion rate was far better than Luis’s.

          We cannot ignore the fact that Clint played the majority of the season on the left side of midfield and taking that into consideration Clint Dempsey’s stats here are very, very impressive as he’s got very close to matching most of the strikers whilst playing in this position. Our positional chart later will show how impressive Clint is when he starts as a striker. If you don’t like viewing stats in tables here are the stats in line charts:


          The line chart above shows how impressive the top three strikers were last season (the lower value is better here) but it was only the mins per goal metric that caused Clint Dempsey and Luis Suarez to lag behind these three players. Luis started all of his games as a striker but had issues converting his chances. Clint Dempsey’s 195 mins per goal is better than ANY Liverpool player last season. He also did this playing the majority as left-sided midfielder/forward. From a mins per shot and shot on target perspective there is not too much between all five players.



          Chart 2 is the opposite – the higher value is better and Dempsey’s accuracy is better here and Suarez’s stats fall sharply in contrast to all others. Rooney out-performs all of his rivals in this whilst Suarez has the worst stats out of those compared. Clint Dempsey is very close to van Persie and Aguero in these metrics in apart from chance conversion.

          Clint Dempsey compared to Premier League Wide Forwards

          The following table displays the stats for Clint Dempsey in comparison to Sturridge, Sinclair, Gervinho and Dirk Kuyt:



          Clint Dempsey pretty much clears up here and tops five out of the seven statistics on display whilst Gervinho tops the other two. Whilst not being top in creativity he scored most often, shot most often, hit the target most often and his conversion of both regular and clear-cut chances was also the best. Dirk Kuyt didn’t do very well in comparison and if Dempsey does join he’d be taking up the slot that Dirk has vacated and looking at these stats he’d definitely be an upgrade for Liverpool.
          Dirk’s chance conversion and clear-cut chance conversion stats were very poor last season. Gervinho was most creative and most accurate at shooting whereas Sturridge was neither the best or worst in any of the statistics. Scott Sinclair didn’t look too good in these statistics as a wide forward either – and with age on his side he can only get better but Clint Dempsey would be the right option for Liverpool at the moment.

          These stats are also reflected in the following line charts:



          Dempsey compared wide forwards mins per shot goal

          Dirk Kuyt’s stats are so poor that his mins per goal doesn’t even appear on the chart – it’s off the charts so to speak – in a bad way!



          Clint Dempsey out-shines the other wide forwards in both line charts above whilst in comparison Dirk Kuyt did well – erm – a word that would probably be edited out on this site when this article gets reviewed!

          Clint Dempsey’s Positional Flexibility

          One of Clint Dempsey’s qualities is his ability to play anywhere in the forward positions and be able to deliver results. He’s scored in five of the six positions he started for Fulham last season (all five displayed below). The illustration I’ve put together shows this below (stats via WhoScored.com):



          Impressively, in five starts as a centre forward Clint Dempsey scored five and combined with the attacking mid role he achieved eight goals in ten starts (certainly very impressive when broken down like this). Starting in the left midfield position Dempsey achieved seven goals and five assists in 23 starts which translates to him contributing towards a goal for Fulham just over a goal every two games whilst he only played two games at centre-midfield (one goal) and the solitary game at right-midfield (a goal and an assist). The stats are impressive – Liverpool would take the 7 goals and five assists at left midfield as it’s – err - seven goals and five assists more than a certain Stewart Downing!
          If Clint Dempsey was to sign you’d be able to inter-change Borini, Suarez and Dempsey in any of the front three positions with ease creating a fluent strike force. We think it would be a very interesting addition to the side as he’s able to play in so many positions and last season he was very, very impressive for Fulham. It’s definitely a signing we’d like to see at Anfield.

          Clint Dempsey’s Off-Pitch Attraction

          Clint Dempsey is impressive statistically as an attacking force but that is not the only place where he would help Liverpool Football Club. Off the field he would raise the awareness of the club in the United States which is a market that Liverpool FC would want to really take advantage of.
          Shirt sales and advertising revenue options would open up across the pond for Liverpool if they signed Clint Dempsey as he’s the most recognisable/impressive player in the national team right now – especially after his performances for Fulham last season.

          Should Liverpool acquire Clint Dempsey?

          AnfieldIndex would say “Yes”. Clint Dempsey, even at 29 years of age, would be an exciting addition to Liverpool FC and as we’ve stated he’d add a lot to the club on and off the pitch. He was also name dropped by the owners at the end of the season so maybe he’s been sounded out? Rumours of Arsenal also being in for him have also dried up putting Liverpool in the driving seat however with one year left on his contract it seems as though the £10m fee Fulham are asking for is a problem. Once Liverpool conclude some sales, rumours of Aquilani being sold and with Carroll looking likely to leave, this transfer may be one of those to go through and we’d welcome it.

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            some sexy stats, but most mean **** all.

            the clear cut chances that are converted is interesting, though. maybe fulham dont make so many chances, yet when there is a clear cut oppertunity, 45% of the time dempsey puts it away. this compares well with luis, who only manages 25%. you have to assume we make more chances, yet this shows we have been wasteful, as we all know.

            he will add to our goal tally without a doubt, and along with borini, will allow for greater pressure on opposition goals, and we will have more players in their box.

            3 players in the box, this is the way forward
            removing all the weak links makes us stronger

            too many gutless players, no beef or desire. pussies everywhere... sack them all.

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              Originally posted by Gazzla View Post
              Premiership Proven it's the way forward, look at the roaring success we had last year with this tried and tested transfer method.

              If you look at all our most expensive British signings over the years from the Premiership

              Carroll - £35M
              Downing - £20M
              Keane - £19M
              Henderson - £16M

              Now let compare them with our most expensive signings from the continent

              Suarez - £22M
              Torres - £18.5M
              Mascherano £18M

              Absolute lunacy that we keep going down this route, the quality of players above and the prices speak for themselves.
              Being pedantic we signed Mascherano from West Ham who were in the Premiership.

              Originally posted by Nick77 View Post
              You can also add Alonso for 10 million, Arbeloa for 2.5 million, Reina for 6 million, Agger for 6 million, Skrtel for 6.5 million, Luis Garcia for 6 million & Lucas for 5 million to the list. Also Torres cost just over 20 million btw...
              Who signed all of the above? that's right Rafa. God we treated him ****ing shockingly.
              The King was back for a short while. Long live The King.

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                Probably the main reason alot of people wanted rafa back, He Transfer record was Amazing compared to the managers we have had since he left.

                Could spot a bargain.

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                  Originally posted by Rehan View Post
                  Probably the main reason alot of people wanted rafa back, He Transfer record was Amazing compared to the managers we have had since he left.

                  Could spot a bargain.
                  His ability to piss players off to the point they left was just as amazing too
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                    Originally posted by saj View Post
                    His ability to piss players off to the point they left was just as amazing too
                    swings and roundabouts, and rafa had signed serious duffers too which have been conveniently left out.

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                      Yeah, we lost loads and loads of players who left because Rafa pissed them off.

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                        So from those stats, *if* we purchase Dempsey, we will have the worst fowards 'statistically' across the board?

                        Yay. Us.

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                          I'm not overly fussed either way by the idea of signing Dent Climpsey.
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                          May the Lord bless this post.

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                            Originally posted by Vermilion View Post
                            Yeah, we lost loads and loads of players who left because Rafa pissed them off.
                            never forgive him for pissing off jan kromkamp - he was the new dani alves
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                              Originally posted by Muddled View Post
                              So from those stats, *if* we purchase Dempsey, we will have the worst fowards 'statistically' across the board?

                              Yay. Us.
                              yah

                              there are other factors to consider. we will be playing a front three, with better support from the midfield, so we will have better options, be able to retain possession should our attack be countered by the oppo defence, and better interchange of front players will alllow for better penetration.
                              removing all the weak links makes us stronger

                              too many gutless players, no beef or desire. pussies everywhere... sack them all.

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                                Originally posted by baitman View Post
                                yah

                                there are other factors to consider. we will be playing a front three, with better support from the midfield, so we will have better options, be able to retain possession should our attack be countered by the oppo defence, and better interchange of front players will alllow for better penetration.
                                And then you woke up and realized this team isn't better than last year.

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