Clint Dempsey

[dww]

So from those stats, *if* we purchase Dempsey, we will have the worst fowards 'statistically' across the board?

Yay. Us.

That seems rather skewed way of looking at the total article. Those stats come from playing in a variety of positions. Overall the impression I got form the comparisons was fairly positive. The competition there is pretty stiff, do you think Suarez is **** too?

[The Birdman]

swings and roundabouts, and rafa had signed serious duffers too which have been conveniently left out.

You see this type of thing pisses me off so I'll bite. Every single manager has buys that don't work out, it's all relative to the budget they have to work with and how many players needed with that budget.

Go on then LDP who are the duffers that he bought?
In fact I'll counter your list before you even post it -

Morientes £6m - Every single LFC fan was delighted when we got him, proven striker who didn't get the goals his overall displays warrented, probably (in hindsight) wasn't suited to the PL.

Pennant £6m - Yeah wasn't a world beater and an utter dick off the field but provided width that we haven't had since and was MOM in the 07 CL Final.

Keane £19m - Rafa only wanted him IF he was able to get Barry 1st, we then sold him back to Spurs at about a £2m loss.

Aquilani £?? - Yep we'll all agree AA didn't work out, however at this stage under H&G we were reduced to buying off clubs who owed us money i.e Roma and Portsmouth.

Any others????

How some people can consider themselves to be LFC fans and still have a pop at Rafa even now when they see what he inheritied, what he achieved, how he was shafted by H&G and Ayre/Purslow then watched what Hodgson and to a lesser degree Kenny served up is absolutely ****ing bat**** mental.

100% certain that if Rafa had FSG as owners we'd be cemented in the top 4 and challenging for the league.



Mods - I know that it's a Rafa based post in a Dempsey thread so I won't continue with this but it really is staggering how ****ing dumb some of our so called supporters are.

[Lecter]

Dossena & Rieira immediately spring to mind

[Lecter]

As does Jovanovic who despite being free we paid enormous wages to

Oh and Ryan Babel wasnt a great one either

[Tee]

some sexy stats, but most mean **** all.

F**K OFF moneyball. Just F**K OFF.

[Mattshark]

F**K OFF moneyball. Just F**K OFF.

This still ain't moneyball mate, this is much more likely a repercussion of last summers wastefulness.

[dww]

This still ain't moneyball mate.

The phrases 'moneyball' and 'sabermetrics' are to discussion of football transfers as 'political correctness gone mad' is to political and moral discussion IMO.

[Imy]

Dossena & Rieira immediately spring to mind

In the grand scheme of things (Downing) Reira wasn't that bad

[Neil Young]

As does Jovanovic who despite being free we paid enormous wages to

Oh and Ryan Babel wasnt a great one either

Yeah, the list truly is endless...

But you could make the same argument about anyone. Name me two Premier League managers of any longevity who have a clearly better transfer record than Benitez.

[Muddled]

That seems rather skewed way of looking at the total article. Those stats come from playing in a variety of positions. Overall the impression I got form the comparisons was fairly positive. The competition there is pretty stiff, do you think Suarez is **** too?

It was posted tongue *almost* in cheek, but why compare Dempsey to the best strikers in the Premiership and when he doesn't really compare, they then start to compare him to three and a half players who have had a below average season?

I have reservations about Suarez, but no, he's not ****, but I did read an interesting article about his form before, during and after the Suarez affair and that has obviously affected the above too.

I can't really do a reply justice but I'll read the full article this evening when I have a little more time.

[Neil Young]

The phrases 'moneyball' and 'sabermetrics' are to discussion of football transfers as 'political correctness gone mad' is to political and moral discussion IMO.

Are we definitely in for Sabermetrics?

[Alex]

[Neil Young]

It was posted tongue *almost* in cheek, but why compare Dempsey to the best strikers in the Premiership and when he doesn't really compare, they then start to compare him to three and a half players who have had a below average season?

I have reservations about Suarez, but no, he's not ****, but I did read an interesting article about his form before, during and after the Suarez affair and that has obviously affected the above too.

I can't really do a reply justice but I'll read the full article this evening when I have a little more time.

As an aside, a Nobel prizewinner has argued that "form" is in the eye of the beholder.

[Lecter]

Yeah, the list truly is endless...

But you could make the same argument about anyone. Name me two Premier League managers of any longevity who have a clearly better transfer record than Benitez.

Dont jump down my throat, I was just pointing out a few more names

I'm a big fan of Rafa and hes probably one of the best managers we've had in terms of activity in the transfer market

He wasnt infallible though but then nobody is

[peekay]

It is the EST Rafa Law

Every thread after a sufficiently large number of pages will converge towards a Rafa thread.