Video Referees in Football?

[Neil Young]

I've only just thought of this but how about all goals and penalty awards get reviewed as a matter of course?

This wouldn't just mean goals that shouldn't stand would be ruled out but it would also encourage refs and linos to allow play to go on, knowing that if a goal resulted, you could look back to the build up to check for offsides, etc. Disputes about the ball crossing the line would also tend to be given, as that could then be reviewed.

The advantage here is that it would encourage free-flow of the game and make refs and assistants give the benefit of the doubt to the attacking side, which is surely a good thing anyway.

And it would also mean we wouldn't need the manager's challenge (at least as much as you could argue we do now) so avoiding some of the scenarios above.

[destinydude]

I've only just thought of this but how about all goals and penalty awards get reviewed as a matter of course?

This wouldn't just mean goals that shouldn't stand would be ruled out but it would also encourage refs and linos to allow play to go on, knowing that if a goal resulted, you could look back to the build up to check for offsides, etc. Disputes about the ball crossing the line would also tend to be given, as that could then be reviewed.

The advantage here is that it would encourage free-flow of the game and make refs and assistants give the benefit of the doubt to the attacking side, which is surely a good thing anyway.

And it would also avoid managers making tactical challenges late on in matches, etc.

That would be great. If this is going to followed then I don't think we'd need that two challenges etc. I'd add red card offenses too to that mandatory video replay list.

[souliv]

Rugby has video replays for tries and it really does not slow down the game so I can't see how it would have any impact on the pace and flow of the game

[Liverpool]

I think goal line tech will have to be in for a few years before more is on the table

[Liverpool]

if the captains or manager make the call you know, theyll have the info to make it with someone telling them, like the buzzers the refs wear and I think its too open to abuse

so I propose the 'Adam system' that the fourth official reviews goals, penalty decisions, reds and offsides. If its clear theres nothing to review like someone is miles offside the ref blows up, however if theres any doubt then the game continues

[Baracus]

Sin Bins should be intoduced. Allow the game to flow whilst videoref reviews decision. If its wrong, introduce a power play for the team that went down to 10 men unfairly giving them a one man advantage over the other team for the duration the sinbinned player was out for. We also need running sub changes. Introduce a specialist freekick taker or defender when need or extra striker. Followed by Time out to make tactical changes [even though it already happens when there is a break in the game, captain runs across to manager].

Heck we should let americans redefine the rule books. As long as its still football but introduce elements of NFL video reviews, challenges, hockey rolling sub, power plays and basketball time outs They know how to run games.

[Baracus]

Rolling subs and sins bins would be piss easy to introduce as the 4th official does feck all. All he has to do is regulate who comes on and off making sure there is 11 v 11, no need to have breaks in play. Hold up a sign to signal who is on/off.

[Neil Young]

Sin Bins should be intoduced. Allow the game to flow whilst videoref reviews decision. If its wrong, introduce a power play for the team that went down to 10 men unfairly giving them a one man advantage over the other team for the duration the sinbinned player was out for. We also need running sub changes. Introduce a specialist freekick taker or defender when need or extra striker. Followed by Time out to make tactical changes [even though it already happens when there is a break in the game, captain runs across to manager].

Heck we should let americans redefine the rule books. As long as its still football but introduce elements of NFL video reviews, challenges, hockey rolling sub, power plays and basketball time outs They know how to run games.

Rolling subs and sins bins would be piss easy to introduce as the 4th official does feck all. All he has to do is regulate who comes on and off making sure there is 11 v 11, no need to have breaks in play. Hold up a sign to signal who is on/off.

One word on topic.

[dom9]

Rolling subs and sins bins would be piss easy to introduce as the 4th official does feck all. All he has to do is regulate who comes on and off making sure there is 11 v 11, no need to have breaks in play. Hold up a sign to signal who is on/off.

I like the idea of introducing two extra footballs, pinball style at a random point in the game and watching the chaos that ensues. Once the first two balls go out of play, they don't come back in again.

[Baracus]

I like it, I like it.. I could work with that....

we could introduce a dodge ball element too. If you get smacked in the face ala Phil Jones. Your out of the game.

[Jaymo]

Football stops all the time. The stats say something like that for in each 90 minute game, the ball is in play for about 43 minutes or something ludicrous.

And yep your first point is as I'd mentioned above. Difficult one that.

Yeah i see what you're saying However the point i tried to make which was unclear was in Tennis the call would only be made after the point had been won/lost? and therefore the game had stopped.

In football would we have to wait until the ball is out of play which could be 2 or 3 minutes depending on if the ball is in or out of play.

[Shaggy]

In tennis a player can put up his hand and/or shout 'challenge' mid-rally.

[Jaymo]

In tennis a player can put up his hand and/or shout 'challenge' mid-rally.

Really, didn't know that. Argument is flawed

[Neil Young]

In tennis a player can put up his hand and/or shout 'challenge' mid-rally.

Yes, but that's not that relevant to football as they lose the point if they lose the challenge. They also have to choose at the time, they can't play on and then challenge if their shot goes out.

The idea of a penalising a wrong challenge 'in the game' (i.e. you lose something concrete in the scoreline AND your opportunity to challenge) is interesting though. Obviously you can't penalise a wrong challenge with a goal - well, you could but it would be stupid.

Shaggy, what about my idea of automatic goal/penalty reviews?

Anyway, if that doesn't work, how about this:

1. Each side gets a limited number of challenges per match (maybe one per game, probably one per half).
2. If you win a challenge, like cricket or tennis, you get another challenge. If you lose it, obviously it's gone.
3. But, anyone on a team (and the manager) can appeal a decision and as soon as that happens, no matter who it is or what it's for, the video ref reviews it.

It would instantly stop players questioning referee's decisions on almost everything.

[Buzzo]

Yes, but that's not that relevant to football as they lose the point if they lose the challenge. They also have to choose at the time, they can't play on and then challenge if their shot goes out.

The idea of a penalising a wrong challenge 'in the game' (i.e. you lose something concrete in the scoreline AND your opportunity to challenge) is interesting though. Obviously you can't penalise a wrong challenge with a goal - well, you could but it would be stupid.

Shaggy, what about my idea of automatic goal/penalty reviews?

Anyway, if that doesn't work, how about this:

1. Each side gets a limited number of challenges per match (maybe one per game, probably one per half).
2. If you win a challenge, like cricket or tennis, you get another challenge. If you lose it, obviously it's gone.
3. But, anyone on a team (and the manager) can appeal a decision and as soon as that happens, no matter who it is or what it's for, the video ref reviews it.

It would instantly stop players questioning referee's decisions on almost everything.

I quite like that idea one challenge per half. It would be interesting to see how it went if every player had the right to appeal, you would certainly have to be pretty sure if you wanted to use it, and that knowledge should remove the hounding of the referee if you disapprove of a decision ie, if you disapprove that much - appeal it.