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    Women officials - yes or no?

    In light of Mike Newell’s “interesting” comments on women officials in football, what do YOU think?

    I don’t consider myself sexist at all, but I also don’t think women should be officiating in men’s football. Women’s football? Fine, but the men’s game is virtually a different sport. IMO it’s like having a cricket umpire in the chair for the men’s singles final at Wimbledon. Different sports.
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    #2
    Even if that is true if the lady in question has always officiated on mens games and works her way up like a man would do then I don't see a problem. It is about how they perform in their job, frankly I suspect that it would be much harder for a woman to obtain a role in the mens game than a man, so would assume that any that make it are in fact bloody good at what they do.
    "The man who never alters his opinion is like standing water, and breeds reptiles of the mind."
    -- William Blake

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      #3
      "It is bad enough with the incapable referees and linesmen we have but if you start bringing in women, you have big problems," said Newell.

      "This is Championship football. This is not park football, so what are women doing here? It is tokenism, for the politically-correct idiots.

      "She should not be here. I know that sounds sexist but I am sexist, so I am not going to be anything other than that."



      Oh, and the lady in question - 'i would'
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        #4
        But a woman has never played men’s football, so how can she officiate in a game that she’s never played?
        Thanks very much for being ‘This Mornings’ Farmer’

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          #5
          I'm not a fan of female officials at all. I don't know why, maybe just old fashioned. They can ref the women's game if they want cos that's **** anyway
          I live with Steptoe.

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            #6
            I don't think that you need to have played to officiate well. There are no Referees who have played football to anything like a comparable standard to players in the PL. Frankly the difference between the game and how it is officiated at League One and lower to the PL is enormous, yet all referees have come up from that sort of level. I don't see how if a woman has spent time officiating at each level up the ladder and has performed comparably with men that she should be prevented from refereeing/running the line at any higher level.

            It may be harder for a woman who hasn't played mens football to pick up the nuances of officiating it, but I don't see why if she performs well in games that she does officiate that she shouldn't get an opportunity to go further. At the lowest levels of the game most refereeing is god awful anyway - so giving women a start in the lower levels will have zero effect on the standard of officiating. If they do well and work their way up then they should have all the opportunities available to men doing the same job.
            "The man who never alters his opinion is like standing water, and breeds reptiles of the mind."
            -- William Blake

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              #7
              Originally posted by dww
              I don't think that you need to have played to officiate well. There are no Referees who have played football to anything like a comparable standard to players in the PL. Frankly the difference between the game and how it is officiated at League One and lower to the PL is enormous, yet all referees have come up from that sort of level. I don't see how if a woman has spent time officiating at each level up the ladder and has performed comparably with men that she should be prevented from refereeing/running the line at any higher level.

              It may be harder for a woman who hasn't played mens football to pick up the nuances of officiating it, but I don't see why if she performs well in games that she does officiate that she shouldn't get an opportunity to go further. At the lowest levels of the game most refereeing is god awful anyway - so giving women a start in the lower levels will have zero effect on the standard of officiating. If they do well and work their way up then they should have all the opportunities available to men doing the same job.
              Strongly disagree with your opening sentence. Half of whats wrong with refs today is that they don't know the game is played. They don't have to play to the same level i.e. PL level, but certainly to some extent.
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                #8
                Originally posted by ShaggyAlonso
                But a woman has never played men’s football, so how can she officiate in a game that she’s never played?
                neither have the current refs or so it seems
                "I have decided to escape, to defy the shogun. Today I will begin walking the road to hell. But you will choose your own path. So, soon you may be seeing heaven. Choose the sword, and you will join me. Choose the ball and you join your mother, in death. You don’t understand my words, but you must choose. So… come boy, choose life or death."

                "You would've been happier if you'd chosen to join your mother in her world. " - Ogami Itto

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                  #9
                  Depends on how good looking they are
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                    #10
                    I disagree with you but as no players of any note want to become referees though the point is to some extent moot.

                    Any way as getting to referee at a certain level is a competitive endevour surely if men were better due to their experiences then they would get on the list above women due to ability and not due to their gender?
                    "The man who never alters his opinion is like standing water, and breeds reptiles of the mind."
                    -- William Blake

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                      #11
                      Most refs have had no experience of playing football to a high level.

                      Most of the problem with refs these days is their egos. I see most of them every fortnight as they meet near here. They get put through a fitness regime over 2 days which nearly kills them cos they are not fit enough at all. Then they sit round and watch videos of errors and discuss them! Discuss them! It could be a manager losing his job cos some prat didn't give something! It annoys me so much. Then they play golf and have a three course slap up meal. The cost of the 2 day malarkey will be phenominal as the place they stay is very expensive and boasts a Championship Golf Course. This happens twice a month! ******s.
                      I live with Steptoe.

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                        #12
                        I'd have to say no, simply because it wouldn't feel right directing the sort of bile one directs at the likes of Poll at a woman. Moreover, singing 'who's the bitch in black' doesn't have quite the same ring to it as 'who's the ******* in the black'.
                        Providing profanities since 1982

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                          #13
                          Originally posted by dww
                          I don't think that you need to have played to officiate well. There are no Referees who have played football to anything like a comparable standard to players in the PL. Frankly the difference between the game and how it is officiated at League One and lower to the PL is enormous, yet all referees have come up from that sort of level. I don't see how if a woman has spent time officiating at each level up the ladder and has performed comparably with men that she should be prevented from refereeing/running the line at any higher level.

                          It may be harder for a woman who hasn't played mens football to pick up the nuances of officiating it, but I don't see why if she performs well in games that she does officiate that she shouldn't get an opportunity to go further. At the lowest levels of the game most refereeing is god awful anyway - so giving women a start in the lower levels will have zero effect on the standard of officiating. If they do well and work their way up then they should have all the opportunities available to men doing the same job.
                          Good post mate I couldn't agree more.
                          No matter how far back you seem, when you're blessed with class, anything is possible. Chris Bascombe Sep 21 2006

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                            #14
                            Originally posted by JRG
                            Good post mate I couldn't agree more.
                            Likewise.
                            .
                            Suppose you have a physicist and a sociologist standing at the side of a field, observing a set of events unfolding on the field. The physicist does [describes] it using the terminology of mass and velocity and frequency of radiation and the rest. And the sociologist does it by describing it as a rugby match.



                            May the Lord bless this post.

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                              #15
                              They need a week off once a bloody month!

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