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    #46
    I feel a bit sorry for Di Canio, he was a bit off the wall and didn't have any problem calling his players out but 13 games regardless of what you think of him personally is ridiculous
    Kurtangled in the McFadden thread 16/01/08

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      #47
      Looking at that squad. Their defence is absolutely shocking! They have some decent midfielders and attackers who can score, but that defence is absolutely appalling.
      96 Never Forgotten

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        #48
        Originally posted by Arn View Post


        I think that Di Canio will be sacked next week.
        Any more tips?
        Another MASSIVE game

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          #49
          He called the board out by stating he will never change, the board probably see the need for less rigidity. Or they realised as he turned up to work in a black shirt he really did love Fascism.

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            #50
            I hope they take Martin O'Neill again. Purely because I don't want him to get the Ireland job.
            That rug really tied the room together.

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              #51
              If they have any sense the will take Poyet as their new manager

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                #52
                Poyet is a good shout for the job, hopefully they'll end up with someone like Alan Curbishley though

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                  #53
                  It was stupid to appoint Di Canio in the first place.

                  Even idiots could understand that the players would never accept him because of him being a facist.

                  He couldn't lose the dressing room because he never owned it in the first place.

                  It will probably be the first game this season that every player will work their socks off when they play against us.
                  Stop the cyberhate


                  from now on I will skip talking about our finances. That is a promise and will save myself from looking like a

                  Susan Black

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                    #54
                    Originally posted by Arn View Post
                    It was stupid to appoint Di Canio in the first place.

                    Even idiots could understand that the players would never accept him because of him being a facist.

                    He couldn't lose the dressing room because he never owned it in the first place.

                    It will probably be the first game this season that every player will work their socks off when they play against us.
                    You're crediting footballers with having a mind of their own.

                    He's the sort of manager that if you give 100% to the cause everygame he'll protect you to the end, to be honest players should be doing this as a minimum. He was trying to create a seige mentality and get the group to believe in him, a bit like Mourinho does.

                    The board should resign for not knowing what they were getting when they appointed him.
                    Always borrow money from a pessimist. He won’t expect it back. Oscar Wilde

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                      #55
                      Arn, did you have a bet on dicanio getting das boot.
                      removing all the weak links makes us stronger

                      too many gutless players, no beef or desire. pussies everywhere... sack them all.

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                        #56
                        Di Canio comes across totally unhinged.

                        An unhinged fascist, not really a phenomenal combination for any human being.
                        Modifying post.

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                          #57
                          Originally posted by Buzzo View Post
                          Di Canio comes across totally unhinged.

                          An unhinged fascist, not really a phenomenal combination for any human being.
                          today sunderland. tomorrow, the north east. next week, western europe, etc
                          removing all the weak links makes us stronger

                          too many gutless players, no beef or desire. pussies everywhere... sack them all.

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                            #58
                            Originally posted by Neil Young View Post
                            Why the hate? Here's why:

                            Anyone can think what they like but that's no reason to believe fascism is just another set of political principles that can be held honourably like any other. I'd oppose him just for that. The fact that a known fascist has a job with a fairly high public profile his presence necessarily involves legitimising opinions which can have no legitimacy in a civilized and open society.

                            What's worse is he actively promotes his views and seeks to justify them. He hasn't kept it quiet, a private matter.

                            He calls himself a fascist. He uses the fascist salute in public. He attends fascist gatherings, including the funeral of someone implicated in the bombing of Bologna railway station which killed 85 people and injured more than 200. He has Mussolini's title tattooed on his arm and a fascist emblem tattooed on his back.

                            Fascism is anti-democratic, xenophobic, militaristic and ultra-nationalistic. It's opposed to pluralism so is, by definition, intolerant.

                            I don't see any reason for tolerating his presence or giving him a public platform to legitimise or normalise his hateful opinions. So, whatever I could have thought about what you say about his other characteristics as a football manager, it all has zero significance to me.

                            Put it this way: if he was made Liverpool manager I'd stop supporting the club. And if it was a choice between tolerating Di Canio or supporting Man United, I wouldn't have to think about it for a moment.
                            Come on Neil. You can't just say someone's political beliefs define them or their actions. There are social, cultural and religious reasons for his political beliefs - to single out politics as the reason here seems close minded and, to be honest, it betrays a certain level of political bigotry. Don't you think? After all, fascism tends to be a European political movement therefore being anti-fascist is a form of europhobia.

                            Do you think I laid it on a bit too thick?
                            Felching ≠ Gerbilling

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                              #59
                              Originally posted by badpiggy View Post
                              Come on Neil. You can't just say someone's political beliefs define them or their actions. There are social, cultural and religious reasons for his political beliefs - to single out politics as the reason here seems close minded and, to be honest, it betrays a certain level of political bigotry. Don't you think? After all, fascism tends to be a European political movement therefore being anti-fascist is a form of europhobia.

                              Do you think I laid it on a bit too thick?
                              Is this a serious question?

                              Fascism is a petit-bourgoise ideology that believes that you, and pretty much every one else, is too stupid to know what's good for you and society generally. Fascists believe that only a tiny number of people understand what people need and this tiny group decide what we can all read, what sort of music we can listen to, what we wear, what we say, etc.

                              They do not believe in democracy! They believe that most people are not to be trusted when electing our own representatives so voting gets abolished. In Nazi Germany, the first people to be sent to the concentration camps were not Jews or liberals, but Socialists and trade Unionists as they were only ones who truly understood fascism and how to organise against it.

                              After that they sent people with physical disabilities and mental health problems/learning disabilities as they were seen as a burden on society.

                              They then murdered 6 million Jewish people because they were seen as 'sub-human'. They also murdered millions of Russian and Polish people because they didn't fit the fascists physical stereotypes.

                              Oh, and you're not allowed to disagree with them as they will beat you up and murder you if you do.

                              Check out the Anti-Nazi League website at www.uaf.org.uk or look at Searchlight Magazine on line to find out what fascism stands for.
                              Last edited by Guest; 23-09-13, 05:15 PM.

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                                #60
                                Frenchie, I agree of course but I'm 99.9% sure BP was joking (I can't always tell, hence the 0.1%).

                                I think he was turning my own words about Islamophobia back on me. We had an exchange of views over the course of some time and I suspect we never resolved it fully.

                                The difference, Mister Pig, is that fascism is a political ideology, whereas Islam isn't while Islamism is.

                                everybody.
                                .
                                Suppose you have a physicist and a sociologist standing at the side of a field, observing a set of events unfolding on the field. The physicist does [describes] it using the terminology of mass and velocity and frequency of radiation and the rest. And the sociologist does it by describing it as a rugby match.



                                May the Lord bless this post.

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