General Football 23/24

[Pablo]

Planes bigger than that seem to disappear without trace, so sadly it's not that surprising. What a tragic story.

[Buzzo]

I think the capability for planes ditching into the see is a bit of a myth. The guy who landed on the Hudson was 1 in a million and that was in flat calm.

It just doesn’t happen. Like the majority of the inflight safety stuff it exists to give you peace of mind. Place the life vest over your head etc. The reality is that if the plane goes down your ****ed.

If it was stormy, that little plane would disappear in seconds.

[Lecter]

I think the capability for planes ditching into the see is a bit of a myth. The guy who landed on the Hudson was 1 in a million and that was in flat calm.

It just doesn’t happen. Like the majority of the inflight safety stuff it exists to give you peace of mind. Place the life vest over your head etc. The reality is that if the plane goes down your ****ed.

If it was stormy, that little plane would disappear in seconds.

I would imagine a plane such as that would break up on impact with the sea, and although the main body of the fuselage would disappear quickly there would be some wreckage strewn over the surface

[Lecter]

Not necessarily, I've been out in the Irish Sea at night in stormy weather on a smallish fishing boat, if the sea isn't in hospitable mood it would be very difficult to escape a plane and be in contact with the life raft, and then getting in the thing.

I scuba-dived a lot when I was in my 20's off the west coast of Scotland. It was hard enough being on the surface in 1m swells and thats with a buoyancy aid and breathing apparatus in, nevermind getting back on board a boat

[Buzzo]

I would imagine a plane such as that would break up on impact with the sea, and although the main body of the fuselage would disappear quickly there would be some wreckage strewn over the surface

I’ve watched a few docs about air recovery and it is real needle in a haystack stuff. Success is just down to luck.

Factor in the currents, the size of the search area and the elapsed time, then visually searching for debris from a small air craft from height will be very difficult.

There will have been some predictions based on the currents, but ultimately they don’t know where the plane ditched. One way or another they were dead from the moment the plane went down.

[Vermilion]

I scuba-dived a lot when I was in my 20's off the west coast of Scotland. It was hard enough being on the surface in 1m swells and thats with a buoyancy aid and breathing apparatus in, nevermind getting back on board a boat

Nice.

Just the swells and troughs created out there can separate you from where you need to be in an instant, lifting your vessel high then slamming you down with a bang, hard enough crossing the deck of a boat in rough sea, let alone clinging to a shiny slippery surface of a plane, and executing any safety measures that could save your life.

[topscorer]

Clearly a tragic loss of life here and I feel for the families. That is, of course, the most important concern about this event.

But their are so many elements in this story that point towards gross negligence by someone, possibly many people before an investigation is even opened.

From all the articles I've read the key points that make me think this are :-

1. This type of plane should not be flown at night
2. Apparently the plane was supposed to fly in the morning and didn't
3. The pilot only had a private flying license, not a commercial one
4. From an insurance point of view Cardiff only have enough insurance to cover about 50% of the total value of the contract and stand to lose a lot of money
5. It was his agent who arranged the plane, neither of the clubs were involved in travel arrangements

Once the period of mourning is over I think this could get nasty. A lot of people are going to be fighting each other in the courts for a while regarding the repurcussions of this tragedy.

If only the clock could be turned back and the poor soul flew a different way.

[ChesterDave]

West Ham

[Vermilion]

West Hammered!

[shanks69]

Reports coming through of bits of wreckage washing up on a french beach.

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[Chris]

Nasser Al-Khelaifi, chairman of French soccer kings Paris Saint-Germain, is set to join the Uefa executive committee.

The European Club Association (ECA) says its board elected the Qatari to be one of its two delegates on the policy-making panel, meaning Al-Khelaifi’s position on the Uefa executive committee will now move forward be ratified next week in Rome.

http://www.sportspromedia.com/news/psg-nasser-al-khelaifi-uefa-executive-committee

Incredible.

[Shaggy]

[Norbs]

Turkeys voting against Xmas

[Buzzo]

Nasser Al-Khelaifi, chairman of French soccer kings Paris Saint-Germain, is set to join the Uefa executive committee.

The European Club Association (ECA) says its board elected the Qatari to be one of its two delegates on the policy-making panel, meaning Al-Khelaifi’s position on the Uefa executive committee will now move forward be ratified next week in Rome.

http://www.sportspromedia.com/news/psg-nasser-al-khelaifi-uefa-executive-committee

Incredible.

Nothing to see here.

[Kenneth]

Wtf?