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    #7156
    Originally posted by BobTheCharmer View Post
    Perhaps he was. Not sure it's relevant now unless people can't change. A long time has passed, his social circle and experience of life is so much greater now. It's a bizarre admission. But at least he's being honest. He didn't commit a crime so all's well that ends well.
    I agree.

    I think, for his own good, he should clarify. So far he hasn’t really explained his current POV. Because so far he has said he set out to kill an (any) innocent black person.

    That’s extreme.
    Last edited by Buzzo; 06-02-19, 01:19 AM.
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      #7157
      Originally posted by Buzzo View Post
      I agree.

      I think, for his own good, he should clarify. So far he hasn’t really explained his current POV. Because so far he has said he set out to kill an (any) innocent black person.

      That’s extreme.
      Not quite what he said. He essentially said he wanted someone to start on him as he walked about the streets of certain neighbourhoods. So he went looking for trouble yes, but I don't think someone who starts on him could be classed as innocent?

      If he wanted to attack any black person, innocent or not, I think he could have done so. However, his objective was to retaliate (with extreme prejudice) to an attack on him.

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        #7158
        Originally posted by Scratch View Post
        Not quite what he said. He essentially said he wanted someone to start on him as he walked about the streets of certain neighbourhoods. So he went looking for trouble yes, but I don't think someone who starts on him could be classed as innocent?

        If he wanted to attack any black person, innocent or not, I think he could have done so. However, his objective was to retaliate (with extreme prejudice) to an attack on him.
        "kill him" was the quote.

        https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-47143399


        The audio is in that link.

        As anecdotes go, it's at best ill-judged and i doubt very much, a premeditated comment. The key things is this was an angry man who finally came to and i would like think has grown up and evolved as an adult. The context of NI as a society is interesting, it doesn't mitigate racism but violence was certainly desensitised among many white males.

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          #7159
          Originally posted by Scratch View Post
          Not quite what he said. He essentially said he wanted someone to start on him as he walked about the streets of certain neighbourhoods. So he went looking for trouble yes, but I don't think someone who starts on him could be classed as innocent?

          If he wanted to attack any black person, innocent or not, I think he could have done so. However, his objective was to retaliate (with extreme prejudice) to an attack on him.

          Originally posted by labourRed View Post
          "kill him" was the quote.

          https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-47143399


          The audio is in that link.

          As anecdotes go, it's at best ill-judged and i doubt very much, a premeditated comment. The key things is this was an angry man who finally came to and i would like think has grown up and evolved as an adult. The context of NI as a society is interesting, it doesn't mitigate racism but violence was certainly desensitised among many white males.
          "As anecdotes go, it's at best ill-judged"

          ****ing right. Its about as sensational as it gets. It is definitely the foundation of a much needed conversation around race and racism and particularly latent racism.

          I agree he definitely didn't plan to say it and sparking a valuable debate or not he must surely regret it on a personal level. Imagine what his family and kids must be thinking.

          I read an article that supposed, if his friend had said that her rapist was white would he have just gone outside and shot himself in the head?
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            #7160
            French club Nantes have demanded payment from Cardiff City over the £15m transfer of Emiliano Sala, BBC Wales has learned.

            https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/47146614

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              #7161
              Originally posted by Bender View Post
              French club Nantes have demanded payment from Cardiff City over the £15m transfer of Emiliano Sala, BBC Wales has learned.

              https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/47146614
              Tricky one isnt it...
              All signed and done, does he have to have actually played for cardiff to have "left" nantes.
              Sounds a bit mercenary but i suppose technically they are right.
              removing all the weak links makes us stronger

              too many gutless players, no beef or desire. pussies everywhere... sack them all.

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                #7162
                Originally posted by baitman View Post
                Tricky one isnt it...
                All signed and done, does he have to have actually played for cardiff to have "left" nantes.
                Sounds a bit mercenary but i suppose technically they are right.
                Like you said .....He was officially a Cardiff City player so Nantes are within their rights to ask for the Transfer payments whether it's morally right or wrong is down to each individual.

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                  #7163
                  Maybe the timing isn't great. Cardiff have already said they will pay once all paperwork has been verified.
                  Always borrow money from a pessimist. He won’t expect it back. Oscar Wilde

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                    #7164
                    Originally posted by BobTheCharmer View Post
                    Maybe the timing isn't great. Cardiff have already said they will pay once all paperwork has been verified.

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                      #7165
                      If the deal was signed and done then they need to pay the fee and claim back in insurance.

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                        #7166
                        Originally posted by Leyton388 View Post
                        If the deal was signed and done then they need to pay the fee and claim back in insurance.

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                          #7167
                          Originally posted by Leyton388 View Post
                          If the deal was signed and done then they need to pay the fee and claim back in insurance.
                          I don't think waiting until everything has been verified and the dust has settled a little to be unreasonable. Plus I'm sure the insurance is only covering 50% so that needs to be looked into.

                          Insurance payments on a car or home can take months, I really don't see this type of situation being resolved any sooner.
                          Always borrow money from a pessimist. He won’t expect it back. Oscar Wilde

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                            #7168
                            Originally posted by BobTheCharmer View Post
                            I don't think waiting until everything has been verified and the dust has settled a little to be unreasonable. Plus I'm sure the insurance is only covering 50% so that needs to be looked into.

                            Insurance payments on a car or home can take months, I really don't see this type of situation being resolved any sooner.
                            I agree the timing is shocking, however for purposes of tax and the books I can see where the club is coming from. They need to balance them.

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                              #7169
                              Mate who’s a Cardiff city fan thinks the transfer fee will be taken care of by insurance. The contract to Sala however is another thing.

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                                #7170
                                Originally posted by Bender View Post
                                French club Nantes have demanded payment from Cardiff City over the £15m transfer of Emiliano Sala, BBC Wales has learned.

                                https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/47146614
                                Disagree with most of the posts. They haven't even found the body. Massively Disrespectful. Imagine if you knew anyone involved. It's not about the mechanics of insurance FFS

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